Cloning

[Scabman]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080805/capt.98f6783cd7494984a072f1cecf46ad4e.south_korea_cloned_dogs_xahn101.jpg?x=400&y=311&sig=F0YPtmVm0mSU5UTnGtsoYg--
Bernann McKinney from the U.S. holds one of five cloned pitbull pupies during her first meeting with them at the Seoul National University Hospital for Animals in Seoul, South Korea, Tuesday, Aug. 5, 2008. McKinney has received five baby dogs — copies of her beloved late pitbull 'Booger'- from a South Korean biotech firm in what it calls the world's first commercial canine cloning service.


/cp

Apparently she paid $ 150,000 for the "Boogers".
Any thoughts on this lady's mental health or cloning in general?

[dunamis]

Man, it'd be pretty terrible if one got hit by a car. *POOF* $30,000!

[Scabman]

Man, it'd be pretty terrible if one got hit by a car. *POOF* $30,000!

Yeah, she needs to get those bitches insured!

[KommieKat]

If I were to loose one of my appendages or internal organs, than yes, I am all for it.

If it were possible to clone my entire body, say at the age of 30, and transfer my brain or retained memories to the newer cloned body, than again yes, I am all for it.

[Severina]

^^^^^
and that's the issue. All you get from clones is identical looking but with empty memories ... and no-one knows how the brain retains them. Even if it were possible when do you transfer the memories ... can't do it when clone is a baby or pre-teen. So, your memories in storage till clone is old enough? ... by then it's got memories of it's own! ... fail!

[Fishypancake]

I think that its a good thing. I mean of course clones are only good in moderation, and playing god is wrong , and blah blah to the blizzy , but I think that cloning is going to be a major issue down the road. A lot like the whole abortion thing. It will only be avalible for animals, or body parts for medical purposes, because I really do not think humans are going to be stupid enough to clone humans. That is intill WWIII when the world ends. Thats not going to be for another 9 years though.

[Negativecool]

All of her cloned pets, although technically successful, will either have severe health problems, or live relatively short lives.

For whatever reason, the lifespan of all successful clones are greatly reduced compared to their "normal" counterparts. Science has yet to find an answer to this.

The cloned dogs' offspring, however, will live normal lives with normal life spans.

IMO this chick is fuckin nuts, but hey, different strokes for different folks. If ya got 150 grand to blow, why the fuck not I suppose.

[Celtic Crusher]

If ya got 150 grand to blow, why the fuck not I suppose.

That's what I was gonna say. I wouldn't do it now, but if I had the money to spare, I would.



Anyway, I have no problems with cloning. I personally can't see God becoming pissed off at us for creating life. Terminating it, yes. But all we're doing is copying what he has done in our own little way.

I personally hope it takes off and eventually we will have the technology to clone fish and sheep and pigs and the whole lot of edible animals. Which will surely end world hunger and the human race can advance as one solid unit.

[Sex?]

Which will surely end world hunger and the human race can advance as one solid unit.

Will NEVER happen. Not unless they discover African people's crap prolongs life.

[Celtic Crusher]

Will NEVER happen. Not unless they discover African people's crap prolongs life.

Em..... huh?

[Pinkslit]

Why would anyone want to clone "boogers"?

[Sex?]

Em..... huh?

No government cares about hunger. I used Africa as a example. Africa gets some help from US and EU, and then they owe favors to them, like land or having to put US/EU products on African market. African products can't compete with their prices, so their economy gets even worse. Africa is a nice little piggy bank and it's in no ones interest to see it on it's own four feet.

So only way it could pay off to remove hunger from Africa, is if their shit could be sold for a nice price.

[Celtic Crusher]

No government cares about hunger. I used Africa as a example. Africa gets some help from US and EU, and then they owe favors to them, like land or having to put US/EU products on African market. African products can't compete with their prices, so their economy gets even worse. Africa is a nice little piggy bank and it's in no ones interest to see it on it's own four feet.

So only way it could pay off to remove hunger from Africa, is if their shit could be sold for a nice price.

Oh right. Well thank God you explained that one.

Well, I know they don't really car about hunger. But then you have charities and all that shit who'll try their best. And they'll keep on at the Governments to help the world. Like Bono and co.

And sooner or later, when it is more than feasible to sort out the hunger, Governments'll be left with no other choice than to sort things out.

In my opinion anyway.

[Blood]

I think the whole thing is retarded.
I mean, what makes you you isn't in your appearance, it's all of the added experiences that you've had in life.

All she did is preserve 'boogers' shell, it's not him, it will never be him, souly because I'm sure circumstances and environment have changed so there is really no way to get the real "booger" back.

I think the woman in question needs psychiatric help, not the aide of modern science. =/

As for cloning in general i think its a bad idea.
A cool idea, sure, but a bad one none the less.
I don't think that we should even go down that road because if we do pull it off and start creating new bodies to harvest we will have to start thinking about the people we created.

Sure they aren't naturally made but aren't they people none the less? Also what happens if those parts that we would receive end up going seriously wrong and mutate or some shit.

I dunno it just seems like a lot of unnecessary bullshit to get into just so we could live longer.

Also what would that do to the economy? People need to die to make way for upcoming generations.
What, is our idea of a bright future a world with a bunch of rich old farts like Mr. Burns, buying whatever body parts to stay alive? Meanwhile the poor folk that couldn't afford a body transplant just die off? Will they then need to clone people just to produce offspring, or by that time will they have found a way to jump start old peoples withered cocks/wombs?

Like i said, it was a really cool thought but it seems like it would end up harming more than it would help.

Desperate people will do desperate things i guess.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg215/missmoneytalks/BurnsExcellentSticker.jpg

[Celtic Crusher]

I don't think that we should even go down that road because if we do pull it off and start creating new bodies to harvest we will have to start thinking about the people we created.

Sure they aren't naturally made but aren't they people none the less? Also what happens if those parts that we would receive end up going seriously wrong and mutate or some shit.

This is the part that got me too. The man made people would still be people. So maybe they could still clone living things like pets and live stock. But just not people.

[Negativecool]

No government cares about hunger. I used Africa as a example. Africa gets some help from US and EU, and then they owe favors to them, like land or having to put US/EU products on African market. African products can't compete with their prices, so their economy gets even worse. Africa is a nice little piggy bank and it's in no ones interest to see it on it's own four feet.

So only way it could pay off to remove hunger from Africa, is if their shit could be sold for a nice price.
Of the African nations suffering from famine, it has less to do with competition from more developed nations products, and has more to do with the leaders of these nations spending more money on military and defenses to qualm any coup attempts by political rival factions. If they spent as much money as they did on agriculture and infrastructure, there wouldn't be hunger in Africa.

Instead, because there is constant war between factions that just don't want to concede, more money is spent on guns, than food.

[Severina]

Annual inflation in Zimbabwe is estimated between 6-9,000,000% !!!!!! That would mean if it was happening in USA and taking the lowest estimate, 6 million dollars would be worth $1 after a year!

This was one of the richest self-sufficient countries in Africa until Mugabe came ... and who does he blame it on? Yes ... the West!

[KommieKat]

^^^^^
and that's the issue. All you get from clones is identical looking but with empty memories ... and no-one knows how the brain retains them. Even if it were possible when do you transfer the memories ... can't do it when clone is a baby or pre-teen. So, your memories in storage till clone is old enough? ... by then it's got memories of it's own! ... fail!

You and I have gone through this once before.

I predict that within the next 50 years, computers will be developed to contain the complete memories of a human. This persons memories could be downloaded to the computer, the body then cloned, with the memories uploaded to the newer body.

And why not?

[Sex?]

You and I have gone through this once before.

I predict that within the next 50 years, computers will be developed to contain the complete memories of a human. This persons memories could be downloaded to the computer, the body then cloned, with the memories uploaded to the newer body.

And why not?

Cous it will fuck up the world. Technology is evil. I'm serious.

[Celtic Crusher]

And why not?

Because there would be no deaths, which would mean more people, which would mean more births, which would mean more people, which would mean more births, which would mean more people etc. etc.

[KommieKat]

Cous it will fuck up the world. Technology is evil. I'm serious.

Putting a blindfold on to science or silencing it will only bring us back to the Dark Ages.

Science is the key to solving environmental crises, stopping epidemics, better technologies, advancing medicine, security and reducing wealth disparities.


Because there would be no deaths, which would mean more people, which would mean more births, which would mean more people, which would mean more births, which would mean more people etc. etc.

Why would there be more births when you are transferring yourself to a newer body?

[Pinkslit]

Why would there be more births when you are transferring yourself to a newer body?

Because the dirty old geezers getting a new body would impregnate the smelly old ho's with THEIR new bodies and we'd have millions of young geezer/ho's running around.
Unless your plan is to stop all future childbirth.

[Pinkslit]

No one noticed that that the dog looked like her.............

If it's her offspring she has been dabbling in nigga sex. :yociexp37:

[KommieKat]

Because the dirty old geezers getting a new body would impregnate the smelly old ho's with THEIR new bodies and we'd have millions of young geezer/ho's running around.
Unless your plan is to stop all future childbirth.


That is a really stupid reply but totally expected and not surprising in the least, coming from you. Is this your way of keeping post count up?

I have no "plan" and I don't think all childbirth will "stop".

The body ages but not the mind unless you are referring to the organic matter of the mind.

Speak some sense for once, girl.:54_002:

[Pinkslit]

That is a really stupid reply but totally expected and not surprising in the least, coming from you.
Speak some sense for once, girl.:54_002:

No.

At least we know you will never be cloned for either your fat ugly body parts or your low intelligence.

[KommieKat]

No.

At least we know you will never be cloned for either your fat ugly body parts or your low intelligence.



And how do you know that? Still picking insults from out of your ass or are you picking for green trophies?
I don't consider myself to be fat, ugly nor low in the brain.
Again, you can't debate nor reply in a civil manner because skanks like you weren't properly raised.

You fuck over me in post #23 and to what purpose?
To prove how idiotic you can get. Keep it up, sista crust flaps.
Although on topic, Fuck off.

(Pinkslut all the while: " Oh goody goody! I's got him riled up! Should get Cranium some good post counts outta dis! hehehehehehe"

[Pinkslit]

Hmmm, I would say Bernann McKinney's mental state would be on par with her beloved dead pitbull's brain activity, but that is still 1000fold over The GodBaby's mental health and reasoning abilities.

[KommieKat]

but that is still 1000fold over The GodBaby's mental health and reasoning abilities.

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[Celtic Crusher]

Why would there be more births when you are transferring yourself to a newer body?

Why wouldn't there be?

[Blood]

Why would there be more births when you are transferring yourself to a newer body?

Because you weren't supposed to live that long, by continuing to live you are taking up valuable space that should be given to future generations.

After a while we would start experiencing a over population problem because people would still be breeding as usual but a big chunk of them won't be dying due to getting new body's or whatever.

[Celtic Crusher]

Because you weren't supposed to live that long, by continuing to live you are taking up valuable space that should be given to future generations.

After a while we would start experiencing a over population problem because people would still be breeding as usual but a big chunk of them won't be dying due to getting new body's or whatever.

I don't think he's gonna get it.

[KommieKat]

Because you weren't supposed to live that long, by continuing to live you are taking up valuable space that should be given to future generations.

After a while we would start experiencing a over population problem because people would still be breeding as usual but a big chunk of them won't be dying due to getting new body's or whatever.

There is nothing that says "you weren't supposed to live that long" when we have in our recorded history people living up to 700 years.

Who and what says that "valuable space that should be given to future generations"? What do you mean by "valuable"?

There is lots of "space" out there if only societies would stop cramming up the cities. Technology is making it possible for more and more people to work at home instead of making the big commute to the city for the job. Cities usually have high density of people because that were the jobs are. Not for much longer.

Why keep breeding when you have newer, younger and healthier bodies?


I don't think he's gonna get it.

What is it that I'm not gonna get?

[Pinkslit]

Why keep breeding when you have newer, younger and healthier bodies?


Because it's fun and some of us get satisfaction and are proud of creating a new life with a loved one...not a laboratory harvested piece of tissue.



What is it that I'm not gonna get?

You haven't got it. It went way above your IQ level.

[Celtic Crusher]

What is it that I'm not gonna get?

The fact that people reproduce so that they can have a little bundle of joy to love and raise. People will always want kids. Regardless of weather or not they can step into a new body.

John and Mary will be the hypothetical people for this hypothetical situation.

John meets Mary, they have four kids and grow old. Their kids have four kids each. Which makes 20 in total.
John and Mary get new bodies. John and Mary have four more kids with their new bodies. Their new and old kids have four kids each. Which makes 60 in total.
John and Mary and John and Mary's kids get new bodies. John and Mary have four new kids, as do John and Mary's first four kids and their second group of kids.
And that's just from John and Mary. As of July 2007, the estimated population of the world is 6,602,224,175
See where I'm going with this?

No one's dying but most of them are gonna keep reproducing. Do you really not see a problem with this?

[KommieKat]

Because it's fun and some of us get satisfaction and are proud of creating a new life with a loved one...not a laboratory harvested piece of tissue.



You haven't got it. It went way above your IQ level.

Ahhhh, Eureka! I've got it!
You're a walking talking crusty cunt flapper.

People can enjoy a sexual life without children.
There are millions of couples who don't want children

What's the difference between a womb harvested piece of tissue and a laboratory one? Both can be given love, flappers.




No one's dying but most of them are gonna keep reproducing. Do you really not see a problem with this?

No, I don't see the problem because it's not going to happen.

Space is the new frontier. Within your life time, we will be colonizing the moon and mars. People can go there for procreation purposes if they wish or they can "harvest" a newer body, thereby prolonging space travel in our own solar system or galaxy.

Do YOU see where this is going?

[Celtic Crusher]

Space is the new frontier. Within your life time, we will be colonizing the moon and mars. People can go there for procreation purposes if they wish or they can "harvest" a newer body, thereby prolonging space travel in our own solar system or galaxy.



IF that happens then all will be good. But I can't see the average citizen being able to go to Mars in my lifetime.

We don't know enough about Mars to be presuming that we will be living there within the next 80 years.

[Sex?]

People can enjoy a sexual life without children.
There are millions of couples who don't want children


As opposed to a billion?



What's the difference between a womb harvested piece of tissue and a laboratory one? Both can be given love, flappers.


...what? What does love to your child have to do with a new body? You love your body like you would love your child?



No, I don't see the problem because it's not going to happen.

Space is the new frontier. Within your life time, we will be colonizing the moon and mars. People can go there for procreation purposes if they wish or they can "harvest" a newer body, thereby prolonging space travel in our own solar system or galaxy.

Do YOU see where this is going?

Yeah, I can totally see some NASA guy coming to my home and asking me if I the crowd bothers me, and do I wanna move to mars. For sure.

You watch way to much Star trek. What do you picture the future like? Earth as a breeding ground for humans, making shiploads of them to be transported to new planets?
Hey, excuse me Africans? You exceeded your quota, there are more then a billion of you, need a hundred million of you to come with me.
In the future, when you are so sure of something, firstly think about it for a minute. Is it something you know is true, or is it something you want to be true? Because what you say just makes you sound as a lazy coward, who awaits future to fix his problems.

[mcsmc]

Ahhhh, Eureka! I've got it!

The only thing you've got is the most reasons to commit suicide anyone's ever had.


People can enjoy a sexual life without children.
There are millions of couples who don't want children

No one was talking about enjoying sex. The fact is, a lot of people find a lot of happiness and joy in raising a child they made together, dipshit. The fact that you can't understand this simple concept leads me to believe you are a horrible father. If you were my father, I'd probably have killed you by now.


What's the difference between a womb harvested piece of tissue and a laboratory one? Both can be given love, flappers.

You just don't get the idea of personal, do you?


No, I don't see the problem because it's not going to happen.

Oh, are you an authority on the subject? Are you considered by anyone to be an authority on any subject? The only thing you have experience in is being a traitor, a coward, and a dumbfuck.


Space is the new frontier.

Cute words. They don't mean shit, though. The only part of space any person has ever been to is within the Earth's gravitational field.


Within your life time, we will be colonizing the moon and mars.

Really? Quote trusted sources. If you can't quote sources, you're just spewing more shit from your hole.


People can go there for procreation purposes if they wish or they can "harvest" a newer body, thereby prolonging space travel in our own solar system or galaxy.

Yeah... sure. We're far from perfecting any sort of cloning technology. For now, it's mostly just an idea, and a greatly controversial one at that. Secondly, we don't even go to the moon hardly ever, we've never been to Mars, and we don't have any actual plans for colonizing either yet. If and when we do put people on one or both places, it will likely be completely scientific and/or military in nature for a long time before civilians are allowed. After that, it will likely be very expensive, so only wealthy people will be able to go. You lack any ability to reason, and it's pretty fucking sad.


Do YOU see where this is going?

You still don't, so why don't you stick to watching yourself shit in a glass toilet.

[Sex?]

There is nothing that says "you weren't supposed to live that long" when we have in our recorded history people living up to 700 years.

Read Däniken. And Quinn while you're at it.

[KommieKat]

As opposed to a billion?

I don't understand your point.


...what? What does love to your child have to do with a new body? You love your body like you would love your child?

You mean you don't love yourself?
Did I mention anything about not loving your own children or children in general?


Yeah, I can totally see some NASA guy coming to my home and asking me if I the crowd bothers me, and do I wanna move to mars. For sure.

Why the use of exaggeration? I seriously doubt they will come to your door anytime soon. There WILL be colonization of the moon and mars whether you are ready for it or not.

Ever heard of the International Space Station?


You watch way to much Star trek.

Maybe I did. So what. Why should my opinions matter to you?


What do you picture the future like? Earth as a breeding ground for humans, making shiploads of them to be transported to new planets?
Hey, excuse me Africans? You exceeded your quota, there are more then a billion of you, need a hundred million of you to come with me.
In the future, when you are so sure of something, firstly think about it for a minute.

You do realize that these are YOUR words, not mine. I said nothing of the sort.


Is it something you know is true, or is it something you want to be true?

The future of revolutionary wealth will rely on science and the exploration of space. Again, if you have not heard of the International Space Station, Google is your friend.


Because what you say just makes you sound as a lazy coward, who awaits future to fix his problems.

Problems? What problems? I mentioned no problems. Please quote where I mentioned problems.

Actually I see you projecting yourself.
It's YOU and your generation who expect the prior generation to hold your hands for you. You whine and cry "woe is me" and live selfish lives.

Question: "Do you want to live to be, say, 80 years old?"
Typical answer from someone born after 1985:
"Fuck no. Who wants to live in this world with pollution and nuclear annihilation!"

It's too bad you don't look forward to a future.
A few things for you to Google:
*Longevity
*Nano-technology
*Genome project
*Cloning
*Neuro-psycho-pharmacology
That's just a start.


I never said that there wasn't a mess to clean up nor that it was going to be easy, but Space exploration will be THE THING, like it or not, ready for it or not.





The only thing you've got is the most reasons to commit suicide anyone's ever had.

Tank Commander: "Hey you! Ginger boy! Where's my fuel for these tanks!"

You: "Yes sa, I's a comming, sa!"


No one was talking about enjoying sex. The fact is, a lot of people find a lot of happiness and joy in raising a child they made together, dipshit. The fact that you can't understand this simple concept leads me to believe you are a horrible father. If you were my father, I'd probably have killed you by now.

Tank commander is calling you, boy. Get your ass off the pc and get to pumping some gas, BOY!


You just don't get the idea of personal, do you?

You mean as in prosuming? I most certainly do. Do you?


Oh, are you an authority on the subject? Are you considered by anyone to be an authority on any subject? The only thing you have experience in is being a traitor, a coward, and a dumbfuck.

Get to driving that fuel truck, BOY. Don't want to keep tank commander waiting.




Cute words.


Glad you liked it, fuel truck tank pumper BOY.


They don't mean shit, though. The only part of space any person has ever been to is within the Earth's gravitational field.

Did I say anybody was beyond it? Nope. Sure didn't. Not I says I who is I.




Really? Quote trusted sources. If you can't quote sources, you're just spewing more shit from your hole.

Ah, who the fuck were you again? What makes you so important that I need to prove anything to the likes of you, Ginger Boy.
Opinions are opinions and are not in need of constant proving, turtle dick.
You're nothing more than a FUEL TRUCK driver, fucking up your job by not keeping Tank Commander happy.


................ when we do put people on one or both places, it will likely be completely scientific and/or military in nature for a long time before civilians are allowed. After that, it will likely be very expensive, so only wealthy people will be able to go. ...............

You just supported my opinion, you stupid fucking turtle tit.



You still don't, so why don't you stick to watching yourself shit in a glass toilet.

Why don't you stick to driving fuel trucks, BOY!


Read Däniken. And Quinn while you're at it.

I don't understand your point.

[KommieKat]

/cp

Apparently she paid $ 150,000 for the "Boogers".
Any thoughts on this lady's mental health or cloning in general?


/cp

Thirty-one years ago she was accused of abducting a Mormon missionary, handcuffing him to a bed and making him her sex slave.


Bernann McKinney admits she is Joyce McKinney...........

......she paid South Korean scientists US$53,000 to clone.

[Scabman]

/cp

Thirty-one years ago she was accused of abducting a Mormon missionary, handcuffing him to a bed and making him her sex slave.


Bernann McKinney admits she is Joyce McKinney...........

......she paid South Korean scientists US$53,000 to clone.

Dude, she's also the former Miss Wyoming! This is awesome!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4481742.ece

[Sex?]

I don't understand your point.

As opposed to a billion of people who have/want children. Slow.



You mean you don't love yourself?
Did I mention anything about not loving your own children or children in general?

...don't act dumb.
Loving myself and loving my new test tube body are to extremely different things. Personally, I don't love my body. Nothing to do with it physically, I just don't feel very attached to it. It's just here.

I do love myself.

You said: What's the difference between a womb harvested piece of tissue and a laboratory one? Both can be given love, flappers.

It is safe to assume that womb harvested piece of tissue is a child.
A laboratory harvested piece of tissue is the new body. What does one have to do with another, and how can you love one the same amount as the other?


Why the use of exaggeration? I seriously doubt they will come to your door anytime soon. There WILL be colonization of the moon and mars whether you are ready for it or not.

Ever heard of the International Space Station?

Heard. Don't know what it is. Don't care enough to google. Know why? Because it has nothing to do with the topic. How will colonization help us with overpopulation? Please try giving it some thought.
Billions of people will not be moved to space. They will rot here on Earth. Space is not the answer.



Maybe I did. So what. Why should my opinions matter to you?

...
What?
This time, I don't get your point.




You do realize that these are YOUR words, not mine. I said nothing of the sort.

Then tell me, how will it be done? Please do.




The future of revolutionary wealth will rely on science and the exploration of space. Again, if you have not heard of the International Space Station, Google is your friend.

Again, how does that help us?




Problems? What problems? I mentioned no problems. Please quote where I mentioned problems.

The same problems you said shall be fixed by space travel. If you didn't admit them, why did you mention space travel?

Only cowards play word games like you. So, you never actually wrote the word overpopulation, that means you are talking about something totally different then the rest of us.


Actually I see you projecting yourself.
It's YOU and your generation who expect the prior generation to hold your hands for you. You whine and cry "woe is me" and live selfish lives.

I don't blame any generation. I blame humans. Every generation is the same deep down. Selfish bastards who are born with one word on their tounge: my!
That includes you science fanatics. I don't live a selfish life. I save all the resources I can. I'm very self disciplined. My mind:

-I crave an ice cream.
-Do I need an ice cream?
-Should i buy an ice cream just because I want it?
-No.

Not that Ice cream is bad. I just don't need it.
You don't know me.



Question: "Do you want to live to be, say, 80 years old?"
Typical answer from someone born after 1985:
"Fuck no. Who wants to live in this world with pollution and nuclear annihilation!"

My answer will be: don't care. I don't feel like I have to achieve something memorable, I don't need to see the world, I don't need to do everything I can imagine. That's an egocentric way of thinking that made humans so dangerous. Some people die at 100, some at 0. I'm nothing special and I'll also die at some point, where that will be, I don't care and don't want to know.
I just care that in the end, the amount of happiness I felt surpasses the amount of fear.





It's too bad you don't look forward to a future.
A few things for you to Google:
*Longevity
*Nano-technology
*Genome project
*Cloning
*Neuro-psycho-pharmacology
That's just a start.

New technology will never make you happy.

We didn't have phones when I was 6, but still all the kids knew when and where to meet. Don't remember how, but it worked. Every day a bunch of kids found each other and went doing stuff.

Phones came, now we can't do without them.



I never said that there wasn't a mess to clean up nor that it was going to be easy, but Space exploration will be THE THING, like it or not, ready for it or not.


One last time, what does space travel have to do with anything?

[Sex?]

I don't understand your point.

700 year old people. If you knew who Däniken is, then you would understand my point.
Quinn is for you to change the way you think about your self. You give humans way to much credit. You do understand that humans are only important to humans? We are not the peek of life. We are it's downfall. Technology is only digging us deeper into the hole.

[Severina]

Read Däniken. And Quinn while you're at it.

Ahhh Daniken ... should be in Humour section of bookshops and libraries ;-)

[KommieKat]

As opposed to a billion of people who have/want children. Slow.

Slow? Because I don't understand you, it's considered slow?
How about 'fuck off'. Like that one?


............, flappers.

You mean Pinkslut, yes?


Billions of people will not be moved to space. They will rot here on Earth. Space is not the answer.

This is your opinion. I don't agree with it. How about I behave like you.
Your slow, flappers.


...
What?
This time, I don't get your point.

So what. No big deal.



The same problems you said shall be fixed by space travel. If you didn't admit them, why did you mention space travel?

Started from post #31 and #33.
Over population could be alleviated getting the work force to live in the country side. I have some Jp friends who are Engineers with Mitsubishi Silicon. They told me 75% of their work load could be done at home with Internet hookup with a twice aweek commute to the office. That means they could easily live in the country side.

Another opinion (please notice the word 'opinion') is colonizing space. Maybe it won't be on Mars first. Could be on space stations.

Another opinion is cloning as I mentioned earlier.


Only cowards play word games like you. ............

I don't like where you are going with this. I am neither a coward nor lazy, yet you assume so.

You're being double standard. I will show you later in the post.


I don't blame any generation.............You don't know me.

Good on you.

Here is where I show you that you're Double Standard. You call me "lazy" and "coward" yet you don't know me.


New technology will never make you happy.

That's your opinion.

I would imagine millions of women were happy with the invention of the vacuum cleaner.
Millions of more Japanese women were happy with the rice cooker.



One last time, what does space travel have to do with anything?

I've already answered this.

Please note* I will not argue nor persuade anybody with my opinions.
You have a choice to agree or not. Up to you.

I prefer Zecharia Sitchin, Stephen Covey, Alvin Toffler and Chomsky.

[Sex?]

No. I'm wasting my time with you.
When you have nothing to say, you talk shit.
You have no case, so you talk about alleviating the problem with moving people around, like that was your major argument. You just mentioned it, no one argued about that. Not that it's 100% correct. People still breed wherever they are. I don't see the room or the reason (other than egocentric megalomania) for cloning.
Just admit it, space colonization has nothing to do with anything here. You have no idea how it will help, if you did, you would elaborate. What you are doing is just being stuborn. You're just so in love with the idea, you mention it every chance you get.
And by the way, it's sad you don't know what happiness means. If you think women are happy about vacuum cleaners, you have no touch with humanity.

[KommieKat]

..............like that was your major argument. You just mentioned it, no one argued about that.

This is where you are contradicting yourself. I already stated that I am not arguing one point about any damn thing.


And by the way, it's sad you don't know what happiness means.

This is where you are being Double Standard again.


You don't know me.


If you think women are happy about vacuum cleaners, you have no touch with humanity.

This is where you are being Double Standard again.


You don't know me.


Yes indeed. You ARE wasting your time if you are looking an argument and for cookie points.

[Sex?]

You fail.
If you don't understand that, you double fail.

[KommieKat]

You fail.
If you don't understand that, you double fail.

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