Mental Health

[Fishypancake]

The reason I have not posted in a week or so is due to the fact that I was entered into the nesbit mental heath hospital, due to a failed suicide attempt, voices in my head, and extream depression. I am schizophernic, and depressed. I am medicated on serequil, celexa, and some generic pill for my hypertentious [if its not a word excuse me, hypertention] blood pressure. I came out of nesbit a completly changed, I have a positive outlook on life, a plan for my future, and a re-found faith [I completly abondoned my ideals, and stopped following the teachings of sid].

Has anybody ever been on these medications, or just have felt re-born in their lives? Have something to comment on the situation, go ahead. Honest feedback only.

[Fishypancake]

Oh, and I quit smoking weed, and drinking alchol.

I sold my plants for $300 [basically just to get them out of here, and away from me], and sold all of my homebrewing equipment.

[Polar Bear]

Well assuming by 'Sid' you're referring to Sid Vicious, I'd say you were a fucking idiot to ever consider the man a teacher in the first place. So good on you for abandoning that. It's probably a huge component of why you wound up in a mental heath facility in the fucking first place.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Sid's music, appreciate his altruism, and may even find myself envious of parts of his lifestyle. But let's face it....if Sid weren't a member of the sex pistols, he'd have just been a fucking skitter-bum, lost in a sea of other skitter-bums, stealing my hubcaps for another heroin fix.

"Live fast, die young" isn't a lifestyle, it's a deathstyle. But hey, to each their own, I guess. Just quit stealing my hubcaps, man.

[Negativecool]

Wise of you to post this in the Greenzone.

If what you say is true, then I'm not the type of guy that's going to tell you how fucking stupid you are, I'll leave that to others.

At least you've gotten (getting?) help and have your shit together. I've never been on these drugs nor have I ever been inspired enough to have a second/better outlook on life. I have known people who have been on similar drugs, they work for keeping mental stability, but don't exactly help with the libido.


I've read your posts and you have potential Fishy; don't fuck it up by doing something stupid like getting dead.

[funeeman]

I think its a damn shame you didn't succeed in killing yourself. Apparently you weren't that serious about it our you would have gotten the job done. There are several very sure fire ways to accomplish the task but you chose one that wasn't fool proof.

That being said. I've got bad news for you. It usually takes more than just a week to be all better. In fact most of your meds won't even be effective until you've been on them for at least 30 days. I'm assuming they put you on antidepressants of some type and during the first 4 weeks there are times where you're going to feel much worse than when you attempted to kill yourself. You're going to also need adjustments on your skitzo meds and as they do that you're either going to be a zombie or in the exact same boat as before but worse because you'll think you're covered by the meds.

Basically watch yourself for a while .. . better yet have your parents watch you. Your not out of the woods yet. Unfortunately for the rest of us. . this is all very treatable as long as you take the treatments.

[Amythist]

I Don't think anyone who has serious issues would post something like this. I find it to be nothing more then an attention getter. Someone seriously looking for help would not have stated it in such a way. I have Bi-Polar disorder and I know that the meds take at least 30 days to take true effect. A suicide attempt would not be let go with out supervision. I have never had an urge to publicly announce any issues. That being said , I realize that everyone is different. I yet have found a person or case that a person was so openly willing to public announce their situation. A true trouble person is very closed off for the most part and weary of outsiders knowing their state of mind. Again I realize everyone reacts differently , but this kind of display of open announcement is usually found to be nothing more then a self pitty trip. I wish ya luck if there is truly an issue , But I do not buy it. Get help or continue if that is the case. It is a long road to resolve these sorts of things.

[Negativecool]

I've never understood the "attempt" at suicide. It's so easy to die it's fucking hilarious.
Clearly attempts are made by those who are crying out for help/attention.
Do you really need the attempt at suicide to tell you you need help? Why bother with something as traumatic as an attempt to kill yourself when you're just going to fail anyway (because you don't really want to die) and just get help?
No one who really wanted to die, failed...ever.

[Polar Bear]

I've never understood the \"attempt\" at suicide. It's so easy to die it's fucking hilarious.
Clearly attempts are made by those who are crying out for help/attention.
Do you really need the attempt at suicide to tell you you need help? Why bother with something as traumatic as an attempt to kill yourself when you're just going to fail anyway (because you don't really want to die) and just get help?
No one who really wanted to die, failed...ever.

I'm glad no one is going to you as an expert on this subject, because you're fucking wrong. I mean that's literally just an enitire paragraph of bullshit you just spewed out. Good job.

MYTH
Young people who talk bout suicide never attempt or complete suicide.

FACT
Talking about suicide can be a plea for help and can be a late sign in the progression toward a suicide attempt. Those who are most at risk will show other signs apart from talking about suicide


MYTH
If a person attempts suicide and survives, they will never make a further attempt.

FACT
A suicide attempt is regarded as an indicator of further attempts. It is likely that the level of danger will increase with each further suicide attempt.


Souce Info: ( http://www.ace-network.com/suicmyths.htm )

[Pinkslit]

I Don't think anyone who has serious issues would post something like this. I find it to be nothing more then an attention getter. Someone seriously looking for help would not have stated it in such a way. I have Bi-Polar disorder and I know that the meds take at least 30 days to take true effect. A suicide attempt would not be let go with out supervision. I have never had an urge to publicly announce any issues. That being said , I realize that everyone is different. I yet have found a person or case that a person was so openly willing to public announce their situation. A true trouble person is very closed off for the most part and weary of outsiders knowing their state of mind. Again I realize everyone reacts differently , but this kind of display of open announcement is usually found to be nothing more then a self pitty trip. I wish ya luck if there is truly an issue , But I do not buy it. Get help or continue if that is the case. It is a long road to resolve these sorts of things.

I agree with what you say, Amy.
I have nursed many schizophrenics and it is very rare for someone in an acute phase to show any insight into their illness. This is not to say that schizophrenics don't attempt suicide...the majority of successful schizophrenic suicides I have seen have resulted from an impulse action on their parts...no prior warning whatsoever...usually in response to their "voices"?
To seek help a person must first admit to be suffering from an illness, this admission is rare amongst schizophrenics. They are generally paranoid and feel it is everyone else that is out of step with them.
To Fishypancake I say; you are aware that schizophrenia is a life long illness which can be controlled for long periods by the use of medication. You are undoubtably feeling okay today to make this positive post about your plans for the future....but what about tomorrow when your voices tell you that you are a hopeless cunt and deserve to die? What happens next time you are under pressure or you smoke dope?
Also, clinical depression will lead you to kill yourself as it is the only option you can focus on, the only way out of this is by medical intervention.
I sincerely wish you well in controlling your illness as you have a lifetime of suffering otherwise.
I get the feeling, though, you are leaving huge amounts out of your post and for that reason it comes across as phoney.

[Bunnee]

I think it's important that even while we have our own personal ideals on how one would commit suicide, we should support Fishy. He is obviously going through a hard time in his life right now.

I know through my own experiences that openly discussing personal issues on forums, isn't necessarily about gaining attention, but hoping for some clarification or just to some get help I couldn't find elsewhere, or even just to get it out of me.

Perhaps that's what Fishy is doing here. This could be just to vent, who knows. But ridiculing the guy isn't going to help any.


Fishy, dude, you have to lay off the drugs. Seriously. The pot is making you paranoid. I think you will find that after you have stopped smoking for a few months things will pick up. Your energy levels will rise, your head won't feel so cloudy, and the depression will ease.

Pot is a downer, it's only natural that after smoking pot for so many years, that its hard for your body and mind to cope with feeling normally. You will have copious amounts of energy, and may think you are ADHD because you don't know what to do with it.

I suggest that you use your music as a way of coping. If you have a hyper day, take your guitar some, pens and paper, sit in the sun and write an energetic song. The same goes for your down days, if you're feeling sad, write about that too. If needs be, take a short vacation somewhere nice. It's summer there, right? Go to the beach for a weekend, and just take time away for yourself.

I'm honestly really glad you've decided to seek treatment for your mental health issues.

One last thing- Don't fuck around with your meds. Stay on the dosages your Doctors have given you, its important that you don't skip days either. Of course I'm sure you already know that.

I hope everything goes well for you, this will all take time. Patience is Virtue :)

[Violet]

Good luck to you, Fishy. If what it takes to make you happy is to get your shit together and get on meds, I'm glad to hear you've taken the steps in the right direction to do that. I agree with Negativecool: you have a lot of potential.

Suicide wrecks people's lives. I know a chick who attempted and put herself in a coma, only to die later. It's been years ago, and her family and friends are still trying to figure out what they could have done to prevent it.

Congrats on your new perspective, and I wish you the best.

[Fishypancake]

Well assuming by 'Sid' you're referring to Sid Vicious, I'd say you were a fucking idiot to ever consider the man a teacher in the first place. So good on you for abandoning that. It's probably a huge component of why you wound up in a mental heath facility in the fucking first place.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Sid's music, appreciate his altruism, and may even find myself envious of parts of his lifestyle. But let's face it....if Sid weren't a member of the sex pistols, he'd have just been a fucking skitter-bum, lost in a sea of other skitter-bums, stealing my hubcaps for another heroin fix.

"Live fast, die young" isn't a lifestyle, it's a deathstyle. But hey, to each their own, I guess. Just quit stealing my hubcaps, man.

Retard. Bhuddism.

[badutahboy]

Retard. Bhuddism.

How is he a retard for assuming what he did? Sid Vicious is hardly the spokesman for buddhism... If you were referring to buddhism, why didn't you just say so, instead of vaguely referring to "the teachings of sid"?

[Negativecool]

How is he a retard for assuming what he did? Sid Vicious is hardly the spokesman for buddhism... If you were referring to buddhism, why didn't you just say so, instead of vaguely referring to "the teachings of sid"?

He probably took offense to this first bit here...

Well assuming by 'Sid' you're referring to Sid Vicious, I'd say you were a fucking idiot to ever consider the man a teacher in the first place. So good on you for abandoning that. It's probably a huge component of why you wound up in a mental heath facility in the fucking first place.
Polar made an assumption and proceeded to tear him apart based on that assumption. I'd say Fishy's reaction is about par, even though he set himself up for it with the vague reference to Buddhism.

[badutahboy]

He probably took offense to this first bit here...

Polar made an assumption and proceeded to tear him apart based on that assumption. I'd say Fishy's reaction is about par, even though he set himself up for it with the vague reference to Buddhism.

I disagree... His reaction should have been "whoops, I guess I should have been more specific"... Polar bear's assumption was spot on in regards to what we know about Fishy's life... It's not like he took a flying leap that was totally unrelated to anything Fishy has ever done in his life. In fact, most of the things PB mentioned in regards to sid were covered directly by Fishy in his original post...

[Negativecool]

I disagree... His reaction should have been "whoops, I guess I should have been more specific"... Polar bear's assumption was spot on in regards to what we know about Fishy's life... It's not like he took a flying leap that was totally unrelated to anything Fishy has ever done in his life. In fact, most of the things PB mentioned in regards to sid were covered directly by Fishy in his original post...

My point being, through the overuse of the insult 'retard,' I don't consider it very slanderous. A word used to convey minor annoyance.

Maybe I'm wrong.

[Buschman]

Damn, I didn't realize there were so many people on this site who had doctorate degrees in Psychology.

By the responses on this thread, there appears to be a lot of learnered people here.

And he I was thinking that chat forums were just for people who didn't know jack shit to give their worthless opinion on.

Who'd a thunk it?

Seems there is a high class of individuals at the Cranium!

[Polar Bear]

And here I was thinking that chat forums were just for people who didn't know jack shit to give their worthless opinion on.

In other words, you don't know jack shit and your opinion is fucking worthless.

Thanks, good to know. Moving on...



Retard. Bhuddism.

I'm sorry, I need more than that to understand what you're trying to tell me here. Also, how about an update?

[Fishypancake]

Well my computer has caught a nasty little virus, so I am not going to be online anymore, and when I rarley am I will stop on by.

Update...okay

Well I think my medications are getting to me. I tried sleeping last night without the seraquil, and I still have not fallen asleep. I do not feel much depression, at least not intill late in the day. I am building a tolerance to it all I guess. My life is going okay though. I am dating again, I met the most wonderfull woman, and we are just nuts about each other. It will ware off eventually....it always does. I do not have my painters job anymore, nor can I afford to move to south carolina. My blood pressure is extreamly low, the cardivan or whatever is working too good, so they are going to put me on something else. I am trying my best to keep in good spirits, but I am still on a crooked path to recovery, and self-exploration.

,and I should appologise for the whole retard thing. Thats not me. I was vauge.

[Polar Bear]

Well my computer has caught a nasty little virus, so I am not going to be online anymore, and when I rarley am I will stop on by.

Update...okay

Well I think my medications are getting to me. I tried sleeping last night without the seraquil, and I still have not fallen asleep. I do not feel much depression, at least not intill late in the day. I am building a tolerance to it all I guess. My life is going okay though. I am dating again, I met the most wonderfull woman, and we are just nuts about each other. It will ware off eventually....it always does. I do not have my painters job anymore, nor can I afford to move to south carolina. My blood pressure is extreamly low, the cardivan or whatever is working too good, so they are going to put me on something else. I am trying my best to keep in good spirits, but I am still on a crooked path to recovery, and self-exploration.

,and I should appologise for the whole retard thing. Thats not me. I was vauge.

I got high bp too. They got me on Atenolol. Works like a charm. Doesn't keep me from wanting to strangle people occasionally though. Good luck on the budding romance, every new relationship has the potential to be something more than the last one was. Give her a chance, man.

Also, no apologies necessary, but you still have yet to explain how "teachings of sid" applies at all to Buddhism. I'm in the dark here man, throw me a line.

[Buschman]

In other words, you don't know jack shit and your opinion is fucking worthless.

Hey Bear,..it seems to work for 4nik8! LMAO

[Fishypancake]

Sidarthra is bhuddas name. I dont like calling myself bhuddist because I do not feel it is an organized religion.

But anyway, the whole romance thing ended as quickly, and akwardly as it started. Much like most of my other relationships. Life is beat anymore. I moved out of the ghetto, but now I am in a strange town full of old people, and young kids. Ive said goodbye to all my old friends when I moved so its basically just me trying to find a new job everyday all day. I picked up drinking again, I guess you can't say I ever quit. Oh well. Still not smoking weed, I had the opportunity, but said fuck it. Aint worth the ten bucks it costs.

[stopwatch]

The worst thing about mental disorders is that we have not found anything that really helps people.

Even the medications that are given to people suffering from depression and axis 1 disorders don't really help - they just numb the brain so that no extremes can be felt. That isn't life.

[Fishypancake]

True, certain ones do zombie me out , but I feel it is better to not have those thoughs roominating in my head. If i lose other thoughs along with so be it.

[Fishypancake]

Although I do not think anybody cares anymore, I just have to say it somewhere. Since I have moved away from everybody I have nobody to vent my frustrations regarding the medication, and its awfull side effects. I am not sure what pills are causing what, but here are the ones that I have pin pointed.
-Constipation-
I have not been making steady boom boom since I was released

-lack of concentration-
Half the time I honestly am lost. I zone out a lot, I can not play any musical instruments do the the fact that I just can not remember how to move certain ways sometimes. I am having an extreamly hard time finishing reading a very long book by sigmund freud, even though I was on the last chapter a week ago, I try every night, and I can not do it.

-Unsteady balance-
I have been falling over a lot. When I am walking I will sometimes have incompulsive muscle spasms, with lack of better definition. It is not a sharp jolt like a normal one, but more along the lines of movings a certain way, and not meaning to. I am having a hard time typing this do to the focus factor involved.

-EXTREAM sweat-
Due mainly in part to the blood pressure pills. When I am outside, I am literally dripping sweat. It could be 60 degrees and I could be drenched in sweat.
Before I started all this I was not sweating the summer at all, and it is no hotter in Pennsylvainia than it was a month ago. Well a few degrees.

-NO SLEEP-
I have not been sleeping. I am on day 5, and before that I slept one full day after a 7 day period.

-Irregular heart beat-
My heart sometimes speeds up dramatically, then slows down when I am lying in bed trying to sleep.

-Intense thoughts of self harm-
I keep seeing these hallucinations of myself killing others, and myself. I have ZERO reason to act upon them when I think about it. I have nothing to be depressed about, but when I am alone it just starts up.

-background information[if it helps]
I am 5'10, 120 lbs, and I am 22 years old. I have high blood pressure [hyper tention at times], and no stomach lining due to the fact that I used to drink paint thinner as a teen.

[Titty]

You're so full of shit you should have a flush lever on your forehead.

I don't buy a word of your inconsistent, nonsensical, attention-seeking babble.

Go play somewhere else, kid. Before I send someone to kill you.

[Mamba]

Who is this guy anyway?

[dunamis]

Sidarthra

...Siddhartha?

edit: Sorry, forgot what forum I was in.

[KommieKat]

...Siddhartha?

edit: Sorry, forgot what forum I was in.

Could have been Shakya as in Shakyamuni?

[InterStella]

Could have been Shakya as in Shakyamuni?

Okey dokey. You can stop showing off now. Thanks. And.....


Thread hijacking will absolutely NOT be tolerated here.

[KommieKat]

Okey dokey. You can stop showing off now. Thanks. And.....


Thread hijacking will absolutely NOT be tolerated here.

But of course you're not doing that, are you?

[Fishypancake]

jusr saying, bhudda is right , sencond listing , [my baed spellinig mostake have not read up on my shit.....my bad.....i hate me.....]]


second I am not full of shit, and I pray that there is somebody who is willing to either to reseach for me , or will enlighten me on the subnbject, I PROMISE once I get my camera readdy up and running to get my medical records up on this site. Please and thank you.

[Negativecool]

second I am not full of shit, and I pray that there is somebody who is willing to either to reseach for me , or will enlighten me on the subnbject, I PROMISE once I get my camera readdy up and running to get my medical records up on this site. Please and thank you.
No one needs to see your medical records fish...

We know you've been through some shit, now just let this thread die.

[possessedblanket]

Whether or not the person who started this thread is lying or telling the truth, the topic is still an interesting one and more awareness is always needed when it comes to mental disorders and their respective medications.

Seroquel is an antipsychotic used for a wide range of mental conditions, from schizophrenia to bipolar disorder, PTSD, OCD, etc. It works by blocking dopamine and serotonin receptors, which lowers the amount of those two important neurotransmitters in the body. Out of all the antipsychotics, Seroquel causes the most sedation. Drinking alcohol or taking any other kind of depressants with antipsychotics like Seroquel can be dangerous because the sedative effects will compound and create the "Ledger" effect.

The other drug that Fishypancake mentioned is Celexa. A standard anti-depressant like Prozac. Clinical trials show that Celexa is very effective for people with severe depressive symptoms.

All in all, severe psychological conditions are a very serious matter. People suffering from one mental disorder may also suffer from another one so it is important to be familiar with all the medications that are prescribed and to keep track of all the known interactions.

Please stay safe out there and my sympathies go out to anyone who has suffered from or has had a loved one suffer from a mental disorder.

-Possessed


P.S. To Fishy- The two drugs that you mentioned has the complete opposite effect on the body. One increases serotonin, the other decreases it. Unless I'm missing some piece of the puzzle, they do cancel each other out. But honestly, what do I know. God bless Fishypancake.

[stopwatch]

The two drugs that you mentioned has the complete opposite effect on the body. One increases serotonin, the other decreases it. Unless I'm missing some piece of the puzzle, they do cancel each other out.

Isn't there some kind of online site where you can check the effects of your combined medications? (Assuming your doctor isn't returning your calls)

[possessedblanket]

Isn't there some kind of online site where you can check the effects of your combined medications? (Assuming your doctor isn't returning your calls)

There are many ways to look up the drugs that you are taking, but it is important to find a source that doesn't add to your confusion. Looking your drug up on medical databases like WebMD is definitely one route. Also, you can usually find the drug's contraindications, side effects, pharmacological interactions, etc. on the drug's main website.

If there's still any hint of confusion, always consult a professional. Many times, the dosage needs to be closely monitored by your psychiatrist. For example, if Fishypancake is indeed taking both a strong antidepressant and a strong depressant, that is a situation where he needs to be closely observed and his treatment regimen should constantly be updated and adjusted by a psychiatrist.

Thanks for asking Stopwatch. I hope that helps.

-Possessed

[Th3Gr33nFairy]

The reason I have not posted in a week or so is due to the fact that I was entered into the nesbit mental heath hospital, due to a failed suicide attempt, voices in my head, and extream depression. I am schizophernic, and depressed. I am medicated on serequil, celexa, and some generic pill for my hypertentious [if its not a word excuse me, hypertention] blood pressure. I came out of nesbit a completly changed, I have a positive outlook on life, a plan for my future, and a re-found faith [I completly abondoned my ideals, and stopped following the teachings of sid].

Has anybody ever been on these medications, or just have felt re-born in their lives? Have something to comment on the situation, go ahead. Honest feedback only.

I'm not sure if my medications are similar but heres what happened to me.
About six months ago I got put on Zoloft (for depression), Adivan (for anxity), and flexerol to relax my muscles. I've also been taking Ambian to sleep. I have had anxity for the past few years, but when I had a miscarrige my condition greatly worsened to the point that I was having panic attacks everyday and I would get suicidal, I could not drive, and even my own body turned against me (months or horrible neck, eye and jaw pain and not being able to sleep). When I finally decided to see a doctor I had such anxity that I actually thought I was going to die. My doctor saved me by putting me on these medications, and now I feel as if I am alive again. Before I believed that if I was medicated that it would change who I was, but now I've realized that they allow me to be who I am and not be crippled by my mental state.

I'm glad that you've gotten help, its a hard thing to do. Nobody wants to feel as though they are crazy, people are taught that they have to be strong. I hope you continue to do well, and thank you for posting on this subject because perhaps it will help someone else as well.

[Ms. J]

I've never understood the "attempt" at suicide. It's so easy to die it's fucking hilarious.
Clearly attempts are made by those who are crying out for help/attention.
Do you really need the attempt at suicide to tell you you need help? Why bother with something as traumatic as an attempt to kill yourself when you're just going to fail anyway (because you don't really want to die) and just get help?
No one who really wanted to die, failed...ever.






As a wise man once said

“not across the highway or up the street you idiots, be a man and cut your fucking jugular”