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4nik8
06-20-2008, 08:33 AM
It seems they're committing suicide in record numbers.
Not just recently either.

TOKYO (Reuters) - Over 33,000 people took their lives in Japan last year, topping 30,000 for the tenth consecutive year despite a government campaign to reduce what is one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

A report issued by the National Police Agency on Thursday showed that 33,093 people killed themselves in Japan in 2007 -- the second-largest number on record after 34,427 in 2003 -- mostly because of debt, family problems, depression and other health issues.

"This extremely regrettable situation has been going on for a long time," chief government spokesman Nobutaka Machimura said of the data.

"It's a very hard problem, but we want to do as much as we can."

Japan, which has the second-highest suicide rate in the Group of Eight nations after Russia according to the World Health Organisation, has also been trying to tackle the root of the problem.

Jeez. Here I thought that Japs were supposed to be honorable and what not.
Who knew that at the slightest problem (ie financial difficulties) they'd off themselves as a solution.

Titty
06-20-2008, 08:59 AM
I saw something on TV about that a while back. They seem to place so much emphasis on their career and financial status that they forget how to be people. From a young age, undue pressure is placed upon them to conform to the prototypical Japanese citizen model. Rather than leading their lives as they'd please, they instead opt to do as others think they should. Not exactly conducive to ensuring happiness and avoiding mental anguish.

At least they're getting creative in their means to an end. The latest craze is concocting deadly hydrogen sulfide gas via a combination of household products. That's better than the American emos sitting in a tub and slicing their wrists.

Of course, I would probably off myself too if I looked like them. The eyes alone would be enough to get me to leap from a tall building into a crowded street. Fuckers look like they were repeatedly stung in the eyes by bees.

CrAnIuM
06-20-2008, 08:30 PM
It seems they're committing suicide in record numbers.
Not just recently either.

TOKYO (Reuters) - Over 33,000 people took their lives in Japan last year, topping 30,000 for the tenth consecutive year despite a government campaign to reduce what is one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

A report issued by the National Police Agency on Thursday showed that 33,093 people killed themselves in Japan in 2007 -- the second-largest number on record after 34,427 in 2003 -- mostly because of debt, family problems, depression and other health issues.

"This extremely regrettable situation has been going on for a long time," chief government spokesman Nobutaka Machimura said of the data.

"It's a very hard problem, but we want to do as much as we can."

Japan, which has the second-highest suicide rate in the Group of Eight nations after Russia according to the World Health Organisation, has also been trying to tackle the root of the problem.

Jeez. Here I thought that Japs were supposed to be honorable and what not.
Who knew that at the slightest problem (ie financial difficulties) they'd off themselves as a solution.



Your comparison to a culture's bravery and honor by an examination of it's suicide rate is ignorant... and yet par for your normal behavior.

I don't know how to even begin to argue this subject since it is factually baseless, also I suspect you simply posted this to give buddha the red ass.

And making a thread in this sub forum, with its no hijack policy, simply to annoy another person could be viewed by some as cowardice.

Irony .. indeed.

KommieKat
06-20-2008, 09:01 PM
It seems they're committing suicide in record numbers.
Not just recently either.

TOKYO (Reuters) - Over 33,000 people took their lives in Japan last year, topping 30,000 for the tenth consecutive year despite a government campaign to reduce what is one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

A report issued by the National Police Agency on Thursday showed that 33,093 people killed themselves in Japan in 2007 -- the second-largest number on record after 34,427 in 2003 -- mostly because of debt, family problems, depression and other health issues.

"This extremely regrettable situation has been going on for a long time," chief government spokesman Nobutaka Machimura said of the data.

"It's a very hard problem, but we want to do as much as we can."

Japan, which has the second-highest suicide rate in the Group of Eight nations after Russia according to the World Health Organisation, has also been trying to tackle the root of the problem.

Jeez. Here I thought that Japs were supposed to be honorable and what not.
Who knew that at the slightest problem (ie financial difficulties) they'd off themselves as a solution.

I agree that committing suicide sucks but to say that the Japanese as a culture are cowards is pure ignorance on your side which is easily acceptable because you have no first hand experience living amongst them.

Committing suicide is in itself an honorable act and you are already familiar with ritual disembowlment known as Seppuku or the deragatory name Harikari (belly slicing).

It is difficult to fathom such acts, even for foreigners living there, as to why a child would jump from her high school building but than again, is it even understandable where you live?

Titty hit a lot of good points but he really fucked up at the end, being his usual smart ass self. Japan is country that has voluntarily put pressure on its self from ancient times and things tend to change there very slowly if at all. You are expected to meet certain demands that the society as a whole has dictated as being Japanese socially acceptable.

Few things to keep in mind, they have little to zero counseling services:
1. For marital problems because your marriage is expected to work
2. For students because they are expected to pass their exams
3. For bullying incidents (Ijimeru) within schools which are wide spread because those things don't occur.
4. For domestic violence because those things don't occur
5. For alcoholics because there are none

Also, to address financial reasons:

It is not uncommon to seek out the mafia for money and we know what happens when you can't pay back in time, thus, suicide is a way out.

To be in debt or a failure in your finances is to bring dishonor to your entire family. It was not uncommon to read a whole family, with the kids and grandma in the back, driving off the dock, plunging the car into the ocean.

Here's a true story:
I worked in a Contruction company. The Prez set up a dummy company for tax evasion reasons and he was caught and it made the papers. One of the managers, either to show his shame or his loyalty (will never know which one) hanged himself and I really liked him. He was a nice guy.

Whether it's culture or not, honorable or not, I cannot accept the justification of suicide. It's just not for me.


I saw something on TV about that a while back. They seem to place so much emphasis on their career and financial status that they forget how to be people. From a young age, undue pressure is placed upon them to conform to the prototypical Japanese citizen model. Rather than leading their lives as they'd please, they instead opt to do as others think they should. Not exactly conducive to ensuring happiness and avoiding mental anguish.

At least they're getting creative in their means to an end. The latest craze is concocting deadly hydrogen sulfide gas via a combination of household products. That's better than the American emos sitting in a tub and slicing their wrists.

Of course, I would probably off myself too if I looked like them. The eyes alone would be enough to get me to leap from a tall building into a crowded street. Fuckers look like they were repeatedly stung in the eyes by bees.

Green means good. Red means stupid.

4nik8
06-21-2008, 03:16 AM
Your comparison to a culture's bravery and honor by an examination of it's suicide rate is ignorant... and yet par for your normal behavior.

I don't know how to even begin to argue this subject since it is factually baseless, also I suspect you simply posted this to give buddha the red ass.

And making a thread in this sub forum, with its no hijack policy, simply to annoy another person could be viewed by some as cowardice.

Irony .. indeed.
Your idiocy is unparalleled.

Your beliefs on the reason why I posted this is not only off topic but inherently fucking stupid.

Get a grip on your status here.
The only thing "factually baseless" here is your ability to state what you stated.

I didn't write the fucking article...I merely posted it.

Hence the "TOKYO (Reuters) " that started the whole list of type written characters..................
My opinion on the nature of those who take the easy way out is NOT uncommon.

4nik8
06-21-2008, 03:25 AM
I agree that committing suicide sucks but to say that the Japanese as a culture are cowards is pure ignorance on your side which is easily acceptable because you have no first hand experience living amongst them.

.

I read about this far before I had to quit.

I don't give a shit about what culture it is or who you are.....suicide is a fucking COWARDS way out.

To do that shows no strength to see through what they've started .....
Not only that ....it shows ZERO fucking respect for the surviving family members that have to deal with the aftermath of the mother fucker who didn't have the where with all to deal with what life gave him.

Now...there's people who have to deal with the fact that someone in their family didn't have what it takes to suck it up and face life head on....in SPITE of it's difficulties.

If, by having the second highest suicide rate in the world relegates their society as being cowards as a whole.....so be it. They're Cowards.

MoonChild69
06-21-2008, 04:04 AM
I agree that committing suicide sucks but to say that the Japanese as a culture are cowards is pure ignorance on your side which is easily acceptable because you have no first hand experience living amongst them.

Committing suicide is in itself an honorable act and you are already familiar with ritual disembowlment known as Seppuku or the deragatory name Harikari (belly slicing).

It is difficult to fathom such acts, even for foreigners living there, as to why a child would jump from her high school building but than again, is it even understandable where you live?

Titty hit a lot of good points but he really fucked up at the end, being his usual smart ass self. Japan is country that has voluntarily put pressure on its self from ancient times and things tend to change there very slowly if at all. You are expected to meet certain demands that the society as a whole has dictated as being Japanese socially acceptable.

Few things to keep in mind, they have little to zero counseling services:
1. For marital problems because your marriage is expected to work
2. For students because they are expected to pass their exams
3. For bullying incidents (Ijimeru) within schools which are wide spread because those things don't occur.
4. For domestic violence because those things don't occur
5. For alcoholics because there are none

Also, to address financial reasons:

It is not uncommon to seek out the mafia for money and we know what happens when you can't pay back in time, thus, suicide is a way out.

To be in debt or a failure in your finances is to bring dishonor to your entire family. It was not uncommon to read a whole family, with the kids and grandma in the back, driving off the dock, plunging the car into the ocean.

Here's a true story:
I worked in a Contruction company. The Prez set up a dummy company for tax evasion reasons and he was caught and it made the papers. One of the managers, either to show his shame or his loyalty (will never know which one) hanged himself and I really liked him. He was a nice guy.

Whether it's culture or not, honorable or not, I cannot accept the justification of suicide. It's just not for me.



Green means good. Red means stupid.

And you would know. baaaaaaaaaaabaaaabaaa

Pinkslit
06-21-2008, 04:14 AM
The Japanese are a Nation of cowards and always have been.

We should also remember how, we as Allies (most of us) have long forgotten the evil and cowardly war crimes against humanity committed by the cowards of Japan.

Torture
Rape
Baby murder
medical experiments on conscious prisoners of war (no anaesthesia used)
sneak attack on Pearl Harbour
rape and murder of Chinese women and children

As all people, we easily forget the lessons of the past.

Time passes.

The mind prefers to view the world and other people in a positive light and to forget about bad things or bad people.

So you are committing suicide in alarming rates...fucking good job and keep it up, you are finally doing something right, but you will always remain cowards.

KommieKat
06-21-2008, 07:36 AM
I read about this far before I had to quit.

I don't give a shit about what culture it is or who you are.....suicide is a fucking COWARDS way out.

To do that shows no strength to see through what they've started .....
Not only that ....it shows ZERO fucking respect for the surviving family members that have to deal with the aftermath of the mother fucker who didn't have the where with all to deal with what life gave him.

Now...there's people who have to deal with the fact that someone in their family didn't have what it takes to suck it up and face life head on....in SPITE of it's difficulties.

If, by having the second highest suicide rate in the world relegates their society as being cowards as a whole.....so be it. They're Cowards.

If you only read that far, yet at the same time you expect others to read yours in its full entirety, than how is one to comment?


And you would know. baaaaaaaaaaabaaaabaaa

I don't understand? Sheep? Goats? Speak English, Girl!


The Japanese are a Nation of cowards and always have been.

We should also remember how, we as Allies (most of us) have long forgotten the evil and cowardly war crimes against humanity committed by the cowards of Japan.

Torture
Rape
Baby murder
medical experiments on conscious prisoners of war (no anaesthesia used)
sneak attack on Pearl Harbour
rape and murder of Chinese women and children

As all people, we easily forget the lessons of the past.

Time passes.

The mind prefers to view the world and other people in a positive light and to forget about bad things or bad people.

So you are committing suicide in alarming rates...fucking good job and keep it up, you are finally doing something right, but you will always remain cowards.

Care to tell us something we don't already know?

4nik8
06-21-2008, 08:19 AM
If you only read that far, yet at the same time you expect others to read yours in its full entirety, than how is one to comment?
By addressing the points I made...irrespective of what YOU typed before it.
If it's so "honorable" to commit suicide (especially since this actually started after the 1980s economic bubble burst, leaving many out of work and in debt.)
why is it the government is scrambling to get a grip on this?

Because it's NOT honorable...no matter how you try and spin it.
This isn't a Shogun showdown. This is a bunch of people with families and people who depend on them that are so self centered that they don't even think of anyone else.

Now that we've gotten that myth out of the way:

Why is it, buddha, that with the family structure that Orientals are RENOWNED for, the Japs that do this don't feel that they can turn to that network for help?

I don't expect you to be able to speak for each individual....don't be ridiculous.
What I want to know is how, with the superior, old world ways so ingrained, how is it that so many people, per capita, are taking the cowardly way out when Orientals and Japanese in particular, are supposed to be innately brave and honorable.

Give us some insight (well me anyway) as to why things seem to be disintegrating culturally there.

KommieKat
06-21-2008, 10:30 PM
Give us some insight (well me anyway) as to why things seem to be disintegrating culturally there.

I don't have the answers but it sure seems that you do. Would not matter what I have to say because the all importance of your opinion is all that matters.

By any chance, you wouldn't be a Social Anthropologist, would you?

Pinkslit
06-21-2008, 11:05 PM
Care to tell us something we don't already know?

Regardless of how immature you act, I am entitled to my opinion, and I WILL continue to post it.
I don't consider the Japanese "honorable". Why is killing 1000's of others and then killing yourself "honorable".
They have always been a cowardly race and the recent suicides just confirm this.

KommieKat
06-22-2008, 02:02 AM
Regardless of how immature you act, I am entitled to my opinion, and I WILL continue to post it.


Regardless of what you may think you know, your opinions matter nothing. Carry on with it if you like.

I never said that suicide was justified. I gave a reason or reasons as to why they do it.

You missed something in your skimming:
"Whether it's culture or not, honorable or not, I cannot accept the justification of suicide. It's just not for me."

If you're trying to rile me, give up now. You're wasting your time.

Pinkslit
06-22-2008, 03:01 AM
Regardless of what you may think you know, your opinions matter nothing. Carry on with it if you like.

I never said that suicide was justified. I gave a reason or reasons as to why they do it.

You missed something in your skimming:
"Whether it's culture or not, honorable or not, I cannot accept the justification of suicide. It's just not for me."

If you're trying to rile me, give up now. You're wasting your time.

My opinions matter to me and it's sad you can completely disregard anothers point of view, or right to express an opinion...if it differs from yours.
As I said, "the Japanese have a history of cowardice and these suicides just prove it".

KommieKat
06-22-2008, 10:39 PM
My opinions matter to me and it's sad you can completely disregard anothers point of view, or right to express an opinion...if it differs from yours.
.

You mean like what your doing now? (hint hint)

What's sad is that you and 4nk8t make such a bold statement, meant as truth for an entire race and not those individual people who committed suicide.

I would imagine the 'white kiwis' who commit suicide are "brave" and "honorable"?

I shall state for the last time: I said that to them it is honor that stems for their 2000 cultural year history with about 1000 or more year feudal history

He (fornkate) says it has nothing to do with "This isn't a Shogun showdown" when actually it does to a certain point.
They still honor their chivalric feudal (this is for Shade) past.

Here is possible a justified reason: A warrior knows that he is about to be captured in battle. He knows that he will be brutally treated and tortured. He commits Seppuku instead.
Now, I ask you, is that an honorable way out?

Is driving your wife (who accepts this way out) your in-laws (who accept this way out. Remember, Japanese are an extended family core and not nuclear like yours) and the kids (who have NO clue as to what is happening) off the docks into the ocean to drown an "honorable" act and justified just because daddy loaned money from the Boryokudan?
......My answer is NO!

NOTE for badutahboy:
I am not in defense for Japan. I am explaining reasons as I have seen them first hand. The U.S. is still a great country!

Now, lets take your quote and change things a bit, without your permission of course:

The Western Nations are a Nation of cowards and always have been.

We should also remember how, we as the rest of the world who have suffered at their transgressions to conquer milk us of our natural resources, (most of us) have long forgotten the evil and cowardly war crimes against humanity committed by the cowards of Western Nations like the U.S. and N.Z that follows at the coat tails of the U.S, abiding everything it is told to do.

Torture (like Gitmo)
Rape (Vietnam and other nations where American atrocities occurred with the help of Australia who beckons at the command of the U.S.)
Baby murder (again Vietnam and Iraq with the Hegemony being performed by the Western Nations)
medical experiments on conscious prisoners of war (no anaesthesia used like the CIA and the torture done at Gitmo)
sneak attack on (Laos and Cambodia by U.S. Air force bombers. The sneak attacks conducted on East Timor by New Zealand and Australian forces.
rape and murder of Timor, Guatemalan, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Laos, Nicaraguan, Iraqi, Phillipina, Japanese in Okinawa near the U.S. Navel base, American Native Indian, New Zealand Maori, Australian Aboriginal women and children

As all people, we easily forget the lessons of the past.

Time passes.

The mind prefers to view the world and other people in a positive light and to forget about bad things or bad people.

So you are committing suicide in alarming rates like Maoris without jobs who face racial discrimination on a daily basis...fucking good job and keep it up, you are finally doing something right, but you will always remain cowards.

Pinkslit
06-22-2008, 11:00 PM
...buddha snivelling garbage...

As usual you are completely fucked in your logic.
You KNOW the Japs are suicidal cowards, just like the rest of the world knows.
Suck it up and stop wailing.

http://www.privateadultpics.com/images/pinkslitx/snotnosedkid.jpg

KommieKat
06-22-2008, 11:03 PM
As usual you are completely fucked in your logic.
You KNOW the Japs are suicidal cowards, just like the rest of the world knows.
Suck it up and stop wailing.

Your pic and comments are OFF-TOPIC. I'm calling you out on this.
You're a MOD, so behave as such.


I was completely logical with my responses and factual where as yours are nothing more than emotional dribble. Your latest post proves me correct, MOD.

It's humiliating when it hits home and shows you what the hypocrite person you are with your double standard methods.

Pinkslit
06-22-2008, 11:24 PM
Your pic and comments are OFF-TOPIC. I'm calling you out on this.
You're a MOD, so behave as such.


My comments ARE on topic.
Don't tell me how to act as a Mod...or anything else.

You KNOW the Japs are suicidal cowards, just like the rest of the world knows.

KommieKat
06-23-2008, 02:00 AM
...or anything else.

You KNOW the Japs are suicidal cowards, just like the rest of the world knows.

It would be best to bar you from the Green Zone. Cunts with emo patches to their foreheads cannot fathom the difference between discussion and a pissing contest.

Leave the pissing for the litter box in the Free zone.
You're a MOD. Behave as one.

You're baiting and riling up strategies are loud and clear. It's already understood by "the rest of the world" that you push and push and push because you cannot conduct yourself properly where the big boys and girls discuss issues. Your immaturity outshines your white Honky ass.:45:

I really really don't "KNOW" as you claim. So, enlighten me instead of throwing the same lines over and over and over again.:57:

Jenn
06-23-2008, 02:56 PM
The Japanese do seem to be too hard on themselves. Everyone fails from time to time.. no one should commit suicide for it.

Josie
06-23-2008, 08:21 PM
I've only read through about half the replies in this thread and then skimmed the rest... and might I say that Buddha is actually making sense, while pink and forn seem to have taken over his usual flailing activities.

Good job.

Pinkslit
06-23-2008, 09:28 PM
I've only read through about half the replies in this thread and then skimmed the rest... and might I say that Buddha is actually making sense, while pink and forn seem to have taken over his usual flailing activities.

Good job.

hehehehe

The suicide rate doesn't seem to be much higher in Japan than a lot of other countries...but my word...didn't the sharks bite?

KommieKat
06-23-2008, 09:31 PM
hehehehe

The suicide rate doesn't seem to be much higher in Japan than a lot of other countries...but my word...didn't the sharks bite?

We obviously knew what you were doing, so don't go patting your ego just yet. We gave you chance to see if things would change. Alas, the same boring bullshit.

Seems the only coward here is YOU!

Cúchulainn
07-11-2008, 04:17 AM
Fat Man and Little Boy were the two best things to ever happen to Japan.

KommieKat
07-11-2008, 06:11 AM
Fat Man and Little Boy were the two best things to ever happen to Japan.

That has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

If anything, it was a cowardly act by the American gov, to drop Atom bombs on civilians.
Children, mothers, grandmas and grandpas.

Way to go, doucher.

Silly Cunt
07-11-2008, 09:03 AM
Suicide is natures way of culling the weak and inept.

As a matter of fact, most things that end in the letters 'cide' are responsible for some of the most nessesary things this panet has ever seen.

Suicide, genocide, homicide, and don't forget pesticide (aka .50 machine gun).


Suicide owns, hardcore. Regardless of the Japanese trendsetting.

Negativecool
07-11-2008, 03:04 PM
If anything, it was a cowardly act by the American gov, to drop Atom bombs on civilians. Children, mothers, grandmas and grandpas..

Look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary and you will find this quote. The atomic bombs dropped were an act of total war where everyone is a target. These bombs were dropped on a country that lived by the ethos of total war in WWII.
I find it hilarious that you mourn the loss of these civilians when in 1945 Japan, every single one of these same civilians would have fanatically taken up arms against an American invasion. The loss of life on both sides would have been unprecedented...in American history anyway (crazy Nazis and Commies). It isn't cowardice to spare the lives of over 100,000 of your own countrymen; to not use it, would practically be the murder of your own people.

Anyway...Japs love suicide, hurrah!

KommieKat
07-14-2008, 12:18 AM
Look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary and you will find this quote.

I looked up the word and did not find the quote you mentioned.
You be jibing me!



The atomic bombs dropped were an act of total war where everyone is a target. These bombs were dropped on a country that lived by the ethos of total war in WWII.

Total war also means using Nerve gas and it wasn't used.
By "people", what people do you mean. The ones who did not succumb to the gov propaganda?

What would you know of the Japanese "ethos of total war"?
Did you live there for 17 years as I have?
Do you really know what you're talking about from first had experience living with these people?


I find it hilarious that you mourn the loss of these civilians

Tell me about how "hilarious" you found it. Did you ROFL and LOL and spit your coffee on the screen? Was it THAT funny?
So, you find it funny if folks mourn the loss of children who were instantly vaporized, not counting the ones who were maimed for the rest of their lives?


......when in 1945 Japan, every single one of these same civilians would have fanatically taken up arms against an American invasion.

Ah, that is a big NO. I have met some of those people who lived during those years. Those were house wives practicing with broom sticks.
I asked a few if they would have actually used it. They said they would have "ran like a frightened cat" at the first look at a foreigner.
This is Knowledge based on my Experience. Do you have that to back you up?

This is more of the media hype to support the plans of the A-bomb and to make your conscious feel less guilty.


The loss of life on both sides would have been unprecedented...in American history anyway (crazy Nazis and Commies). It isn't cowardice to spare the lives of over 100,000 of your own countrymen; to not use it, would practically be the murder of your own people.

That is pure fiction. You don't know that as a fact because it never occurred.
More hype for the bombs justification and for the American public to sleep comfy in their beds.


Anyway...Japs love suicide, hurrah!

You're an asshole.

I've been through this kind of talk with too many idiots on EZ and certainly on FY.com
The results always the same. People will continue to except ignorance because it's more comfortable to live with than truth.

Fishypancake
07-14-2008, 08:01 PM
I read in the local indie paper [the weekender, it comes out once a week. I am often in it for the band shit, ANYWAY] the most popular way they are doing it is drinking chemicals like paint, and other things of that nature. In one case they were trying to revive this guy , the failed , and he puked up this green cocktail that smelled like death and pee. The fumes were so vile that they had to send 30 some odd people to the hospital.