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Bunnee
05-17-2008, 07:02 PM
Everyone has heard of this child game, yes?

I just heard the most interesting piece of information about it. Some one told me its about The Plague.

Can anyone here confirm or deny this?

Polar Bear
05-17-2008, 07:04 PM
Yes.

It is about your membership at this site.

Bunnee
05-17-2008, 07:05 PM
uh-huh.

So you don't know if its about The Plague?

Polar Bear
05-17-2008, 07:06 PM
uh-huh.

So you don't know if its about The Plague?

I just said that it was.

Bunnee
05-17-2008, 07:08 PM
Can anyone other than PB can confirm this?

Polar Bear
05-17-2008, 07:12 PM
Can anyone other than PB can confirm this?

I admit to being a wise ass...but I'm serious now. It is a well known belief that the rhyme has to do with the Black Death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_around_the_rosey


Many have associated the poem with the Great Plague of London in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of bubonic plague in England. Interpreters of the rhyme before the second world war make no mention of this;[15] by 1951, however, it seems to have become well established as an explanation for the form of the rhyme that had become standard in Britain. Peter and Iona Opie remark[16]: ‘The invariable sneezing and falling down in modern English versions have given would-be origin finders the opportunity to say that the rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, posies of herbs were carried as protection, sneezing was a final fatal symptom , and “all fall down” was exactly what happened.

Pinkslit
05-17-2008, 07:31 PM
Everyone has heard of this child game, yes?

I just heard the most interesting piece of information about it. Some one told me its about The Plague.

Can anyone here confirm or deny this?

As PolarBear has shown..it is true.

If you ever get a chance then read "Forever Amber" by Kathleen Windsor. It is the most amazing story of The Great Fire Of London and The Black Plague.

Shade
05-17-2008, 07:37 PM
As PolarBear has shown..it is true.

If you ever get a chance then read "Forever Amber" by Kathleen Windsor. It is the most amazing story of The Great Fire Of London and The Black Plague.

Yay!!! I'm totally going to look that up. I knew if i hung around long enough intellect...inta....oh fuck my dyslexia...smart people conversation where you can learn stuff would return!!!! Unfortunantly i already knew about the ring around the rosey thing....God damn mom and her history teachernesss!!!!!

Bunnee
05-17-2008, 07:47 PM
I find it fascinating people would make a rhyme about The Plague.

Its a bit morbid though.

Pinkslit
05-17-2008, 08:34 PM
I find it fascinating people would make a rhyme about The Plague.

Its a bit morbid though.

You should know that children have a different approach to death than we do.

Shade
05-17-2008, 09:02 PM
You should know that children have a different approach to death than we do.

Yea, the news is so much differnt then mortal kombat 17...Fatality!!!.....in a car accident....Finish him!....news at 11.

Polar Bear
05-17-2008, 09:27 PM
Many of your more popular Nursery Rhymes were based around rather morbid subject matters. Especially for kids.

'My Fair Lady' and 'locked away' in the London Bridge is falling down song refers back to the practice of burying a dead virgin in the foundation of a bridge to ensure it's strength magically.

"Jack and Jill' is about Louis XVI and his queen Marie Antionette, who, when they were beheaded at the crux (or hilltop) of the French Revolution, 'Jack' broke his 'crown' and 'Jill' came 'tumbling after'.

And then there are ones that aren't even references, but instead, outright and obviously horrible. Like Rock-a-bye-baby, where the baby is perched precariously on a tree limb and then falls crashing through the limbs below.

Or 'There was an old lady who swallowed a fly' where the author matter-of-factly quips, "I guess she'll die."

And those are just a few random examples...theres a bunch more....Yeah, Nursery Rhymes are fucked up when you actually consider the words to them.

MoonChild69
05-18-2008, 12:13 AM
Many of your more popular Nursery Rhymes were based around rather morbid subject matters. Especially for kids.

'My Fair Lady' and 'locked away' in the London Bridge is falling down song refers back to the practice of burying a dead virgin in the foundation of a bridge to ensure it's strength magically.

"Jack and Jill' is about Louis XVI and his queen Marie Antionette, who, when they were beheaded at the crux (or hilltop) of the French Revolution, 'Jack' broke his 'crown' and 'Jill' came 'tumbling after'.

And then there are ones that aren't even references, but instead, outright and obviously horrible. Like Rock-a-bye-baby, where the baby is perched precariously on a tree limb and then falls crashing through the limbs below.

Or 'There was an old lady who swallowed a fly' where the author matter-of-factly quips, "I guess she'll die."

And those are just a few random examples...theres a bunch more....Yeah, Nursery Rhymes are fucked up when you actually consider the words to them.

Bravo!!! It's amazing how many people don't know about the old rhymes and their meanings.

Shade
05-18-2008, 03:26 AM
jack and jill went up the hill each with a buck and a quarter....jill came down with 2.50 ohhhhh!

NeCrOmAnCeR
05-18-2008, 09:02 PM
Ah, but for the innocence of childhood, the true nature of things so shrouded in mystery!