Support for those that serve

[CrAnIuM]

Is that really too much to fucking ask ?

Regardless of military branch, indifferent to MOS, ALL service men and women
DESERVE to be compensated for the jobs they perform.

Base pay totally fucking sucks, benefits are being whittled away year after year.

I'm fucking sick and goddamn tired of seeing my brothers and sisters in uniform
denigrated to being little more than a welfare recipient.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_9sI7hzAc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z0gItNlfMM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrBYWOEYDdY

[Blood]

This makes me angry, there is NO excuse for this shit.

Fuck McCain. The fuckin trador.

[mcsmc]

I can't view the videos (I don't have a few hours right now to let them load, and then watch them), but I'm guessing McCain's not as pro-military as he claims to be?

If so, fuck the nutjob.

[JackBlack]

I'm a buffoon and do not understand the concept of hijacking a thread.

If I do it again I will most likely spend a few days in time out.

YouTube - McCain Girls: Raining McCain (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MaP9eiWuX3s)

[4nik8]

How can McCain, who runs on his past military career and constantly plays the sympathy card about being a POW, be so apathetic towards the needs of those that serve?

Just goes to show I guess, the lengths some of these liars will go to in order to assert their own agenda.

[suki]

"war is a brand name"

fuck mccain. fuck the republicans. fuck this misguided war machine.

the white house states its reasoning for not supporting the GI Bill as being:

if we make it too good for them at home, no one will stay in the military.

you conscienceless, immoral ASS FUCKS!!!

this isn't the first step in this line of thinking: they basically regarded our youth as disposable when they cut Pell Grant funding (the grants that allow poor kids to go to community colleges free of charge in most cases) to fund an increase in military spending...

now they're ensuring the poverty of our enlisted kids (AND adults) by not providing them with "readjustment" funding.

I have a female cousin in the marines. she enlisted right out of high school. bright kid. stellar athlete...not alot of money at home. they wined and dined her and filled her head with visions of world travel.

now she's pregnant and the only way she can afford to raise a child ON HER OWN...is to re-enlist in the military.

what about all the valuable career training she was supposed to receive? why can't she find a job and come home to have her baby?

McCain should be fucking ashamed of himself. his refusal to sign this bill will NOT affect vets like him. he came from money...if he wanted to go to school...his family could pay for it.

the kids who were recruited outside of malls and mcdonald's are the ones who suffer from this...not the pre-law preps who are doing out of POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS.

our economic structure fucking blows.

up with communism!

[suki]

How can McCain, who runs on his past military career and constantly plays the sympathy card about being a POW, be so apathetic towards the needs of those that serve?

Just goes to show I guess, the lengths some of these liars will go to in order to assert their own agenda.


he's not a liar. he's a chauvanist.

the difference being that he really does think he's telling it like it is.

he's just leaving out the part where he tells everyone he doesn't identify with the military personnel who actually need his help.

[4nik8]

"war is a brand name"

fuck mccain. fuck the republicans. fuck this misguided war machine.
Surely you don't see a distinction between Republican and Democrat.
I've railed on this before but the short and sweet is that there is no distinction any more between what they want...only the slant of the lies they use to get in office.

this isn't the first step in this line of thinking: they basically regarded our youth as disposable when they cut Pell Grant funding (the grants that allow poor kids to go to community colleges free of charge in most cases) to fund an increase in military spending...
Ever heard of the Dream Act?
They tried twice to pass it. Once it was piggy backed (and buried within) an increased Military Spending Bill.
It was a measure to offer FREE college education to ILLEGALS here, supposedly as a means to attain legal status. Not only is there no freaking funding for OUR kids to get a college education...but what the FUCK ever happened to having to attain a legal status the tried and true way? By applying for it and doing what was asked?



I have a female cousin in the marines. she enlisted right out of high school. bright kid. stellar athlete...not alot of money at home. they wined and dined her and filled her head with visions of world travel.

now she's pregnant and the only way she can afford to raise a child ON HER OWN...is to re-enlist in the military.

what about all the valuable career training she was supposed to receive? why can't she find a job and come home to have her baby?

What did she take as an MOS(?)
If she took grunt or something that doesn't translate in civilian life....then no wonder she's having a hard time.
Not knocking her, mind you, just asking.
There are jobs in the military, providing you score high enough on the ASVAB to get them, that can translate to big money on the outside.




our economic structure fucking blows.

up with communism!
Communism + Capitalism = Fascism.

That's where we're headed it seems.

[suki]

Surely you don't see a distinction between Republican and Democrat.
I've railed on this before but the short and sweet is that there is no distinction any more between what they want...only the slant of the lies they use to get in office.

Ever heard of the Dream Act?
They tried twice to pass it. Once it was piggy backed (and buried within) an increased Military Spending Bill.
It was a measure to offer FREE college education to ILLEGALS here, supposedly as a means to attain legal status. Not only is there no freaking funding for OUR kids to get a college education...but what the FUCK ever happened to having to attain a legal status the tried and true way? By applying for it and doing what was asked?




What did she take as an MOS(?)
If she took grunt or something that doesn't translate in civilian life....then no wonder she's having a hard time.
Not knocking her, mind you, just asking.
There are jobs in the military, providing you score high enough on the ASVAB to get them, that can translate to big money on the outside.




Communism + Capitalism = Fascism.

That's where we're headed it seems.



I'm not sure if you're trying to argue with me...but I agree.

as for fascism..come on. give me a break. while I'm not ACTUALLY pushing for communism (its great in theory. blows in practice)...

I'm about as far away from fascist as any individual can get.

you have to be patriotic to be fascist...

hmmm.
wait. maybe you're on to something...


as an aside:
as for her MOS...I don't know what it stands for, but I'm guessing you're asking what she does.

all she'll ever tell anyone is "communications"

I'm also under the impression that she scored fairly well on the ASVAB

[4nik8]

I'm not sure if you're trying to argue with me...but I agree.

as for fascism..come on. give me a break. while I'm not ACTUALLY pushing for communism (its great in theory. blows in practice)...

I'm about as far away from fascist as any individual can get.

you have to be patriotic to be fascist...

hmmm.
wait. maybe you're on to something...


as an aside:
as for her MOS...I don't know what it stands for, but I'm guessing you're asking what she does.

all she'll ever tell anyone is "communications"

I'm also under the impression that she scored fairly well on the ASVAB

No. I wasn't trying to argue with you. You just hit on something that bugs the hell out me and it usually shows through when I type about it.
Sorry if it sounded like I was coming at YOU.

I wasn't calling you fascist. I was referring to the way things are going in this country. Jobs being outsourced knocking workers out of jobs, welfare etc etc.
Yeah. MOS is the job title in the Army and Marines.
If she's in communications (using anything OTHER than a gun to communicate)
I don't understand why she can't find a job that would pay well.
Well, maybe if you take into account the sentence above the last one, it does make sense after all.

All in all, it just bugs the hell out of me that the people that are brave enough to stand up and fight for this country (on the rare occasion that THAT actually happens ~ the need to defend ourselves not people being brave enough to do it) aren't properly taken care of. When I was in, E-3 and below qualified for food stamps. Yearly pay increases never kept up with inflation and the ones responsible for making the pay increase so small are the same ones voting themselves HUGE pay increases....all the while working in a safe environment and usually working less than 120 days a year.
But, even if people were turned off enough to decide to not join, in a sufficient enough number to affect troop count, the draft would just be re-instated.

It's a damned shame when you really think about it.

[KommieKat]

Could someone give me an idea what the G.I. Bill is suppose to cover?

Last I heard it was College tuition, FHA loans and medical.

Sorry, I really have no idea.

[CrAnIuM]

Could someone give me an idea what the G.I. Bill is suppose to cover?

Last I heard it was College tuition, FHA loans and medical.

Sorry, I really have no idea.


http://www.gibill.va.gov/GI_Bill_Info/benefits.htm

[Shade]

Hey, if you risk your life, and fight and die for your country, follow orders, and purposely go through tramatic training and events, simply to keep the rest of us safe, i'll make sure you have a decent life.

dude...you costs to much. I know i said you would have a decent life, just not this decent. WTF. Your life isnt worth that much!!! Your sacrafice isnt worth that much. I'd much rather give it to people who arn't citizens of this country, or to keep bad people in prison, because you know what? that keeps us safe! Knowing hte bums have food.

But what about all the times i kept you safe. What about the death i've seen, i've caused, the stain on my soul, and my bloody hands? What about the mind i have lost. The family i had to abandon time and time again. I'm a fucking american. I fought for you. I KEPT YOU SAFE!! not the prisons. Not the border patrol. I kept you from real enemys, with real bullets and real bombs. I did everything you told me to and more. And now all i want to do is lead a normal life, with the family i abandoned for you.

We make a promise as a country. Our leaders make it through US. If you fight and die for us, sacrafice your mind and body to protect us, we will make sure you have a good life after words. Atleast a chance. It goes against the honor of america to break that word. The thing i hate the most about it, is that this isnt about iraq. This isnt about democrate or republican, this isnt about liking the people. This is how we show our respect to people that sacrafice everything for us. This is how we treat people who on a hill top, looked down at a sea of americans, and decided they would give their life to protect each and every one of them. Some wanted a better life, thats why they joined. But in the end the choice was the same. To turn your backs on that, reguardless of the sacrafice being self rightious or selfish, is beyond fucked up. If it doesn't get passed, someone should just make a fund for it anyways. Because even me, and my shiesty cheap ass wouldn't mind throwing money into that.

[Pinkslit]

If you risk your life, and fight and die for your country

"As Patton said, 'You don't die for your country, you cause the other bastard to die for his.' That's what success is."

[Shade]

"As Patton said, 'You don't die for your country, you cause the other bastard to die for his.' That's what success is."

In war, there are no unwounded soldiers. ~José Narosky