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4nik8
08-23-2009, 01:01 PM
Teacher allegedly paid student after sex
Helper » Victim's mother says teen got up to $1,500.
By Melinda Rogers
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The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 08/21/2009
Melissa Andreini
A former Helper Junior High School teacher charged with having a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old male student paid her victim between $1,400 and $1,500 after the encounters, court documents allege.
New details about the relationship between Melissa Ann Andreini and her alleged victim emerged from a probable cause statement recently filed in 7th District Court.
According to the statement, the victim's mother confronted Andreini at Andreini's home in Helper on July 3 after finding out the teacher was supposedly having sex with her son. Andreini admitted to the boy's mother that she had sex with the teenager on several occasions at her home, according to the statement.
A Utah Division of Child and Family Services worker along with police interviewed the boy about his relationship with Andreini, which he said started during the 2008-09 school year, according to the statement.
The boy told police Andreini used to bring him and his friends coffee two to three times a week before school started. The boys went to Andreini's classroom to get the drinks, according to the statement. The victim reported to police that Andreini paid him money after three separate sexual episodes at her home in June.
Court documents do not specify if the money exchanged was for sex or to keep the boy quiet about the encounters. The victim's mother told police Andreini admitted to paying the boy between $1,400 and $1,500 when the mother confronted
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Andreini on July 3, according to the statement.
Andreini, 28, was charged Monday in 7th Distirct Court with three counts of third-degree felony unlawful sexual activity with a minor. Her first court appearance is scheduled for Sept.28 before Judge Douglas Thomas in Price. If convicted, Andreini faces up to five years in prison on each count.
Last week, Helper police announced Andreini was under investigation for sexual activity with a boy who recently completed ninth grade at Helper Junior High School.
Another teacher at Helper Junior High School is also accused of sexual misconduct with a student in a case unrelated to Andreini's, police said. Charges against that teacher are still being screened, said Carbon County Attorney Gene Strate. He said it's possible the other teacher will not be charged.
Robert Cox, special programs director for the Carbon County School District, told The Salt Lake Tribune earlier this week that Andreini was hired as a special education teacher in the fall of 2006.
The school district received word of the allegations against Andreini and the other teacher in late July from Helper police and Carbon County sheriff's deputies, Cox said.
Cox said Andreini submitted a letter of resignation to the district on Aug. 3. The other teacher has been placed on administrative leave.
Cox said the district is using the case as an opportunity to reinforce the district's rules about professional practices. He said Andreini's alleged victim was a student at the school, but not one of her special education students.
"We take very seriously the safety of our students," Cox said. "We want our students to feel safe and feel comfortable in school. We regret that this would happen in our district or in any other district."
Andreini was booked into the Carbon County jail earlier this week, but was released after posting $10,000 bail. She did not return a phone call from The Tribune seeking comment Friday afternoon.
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My biggest bitch is about the double standard that seems to apply.
Females fucking minors are slapped on the wrist.
Hell, I've seen cases where just having ped-o-porn on the comp has garnered harsher sentencing.
I guess the underlying lesson to that would be to actually do it rather than fantasize about it because you'll get less time.
The biggest farce is that bitch Debra Lafave not even GETTING any time because "she's too pretty to go to jail".
CrAnIuM
08-23-2009, 10:11 PM
Indeed. There is a distinct double standard.
That being said ... I wish I had had the opportunity to be "abused sexually by a female teacher" when I was 15.
So, there is a double standard, but not only in the law but by pig dog men like me.
TopGrey
08-24-2009, 12:33 AM
I like that they call the boy a "victim"....
Please tell me how a minor gets laid by an older women, gets some crucial lessons for future encounters, and gets paid....
Victim indeed.
jeepneasy
08-24-2009, 02:14 AM
I wish I had a teacher like that..... victim my ass...
4nik8
08-25-2009, 11:48 AM
Kinda the point I was making.
How is being a fifteen year old male willingly fucking his teacher any different than a 15 year old female willingly fucking her teacher?
Rape is one thing, but to hold males to a higher standard of fending off whores than females is bull shit.
The only time the females are "victims" is after the fact and it's being shown that these "defenseless" sluts are not to be blamed.
Fucking is fucking regardless of the genders.
There shouldn't be any difference in penalty.
jeepneasy
08-25-2009, 01:05 PM
well said.... but all these teacher fucking student cases have been held toa bouble standerd from the begging.... male teacher fucks female student 14 years ( New Jersy case) female teacher fucks male student 3 years probation (florida case)...double standerd.... uhm I wonder????
Josie
08-25-2009, 06:58 PM
Touchy subject.
Female and male sexuality is sooo very different. Boys do tend to see sex (especially with an older woman) as some sort of accomplishment. That is definitely not always the case though. It is completely politically incorrect to say it would be different if she were a fat, slobbering mess of human whale - but it really would be. She's cute.
Young females tend to be pressured, feel a lot of fear, etc. The fact that the sex is happening to a female is not being given as in a male's situation changes the dynamic as well.
My point is not to say it isn't a big deal when adults prey on children. It is. No matter the gender. However, it is most definitely a 'case by case' type deal.
More trauma, more time. Less trauma, less time.
That said.... you could take it even further.
A look into the genders and promiscuity on either end affects the individual negatively.
For males - it's a longterm process. It's all fun and games til they hit 25-30 and need a companion but do not have the capacity to connect beyond penis to vagina slurp. One experience with a feisty teacher would not necessarily doom a normal male, though. See? Touchy.
For females - it's alll about connection. From day one. Dirty old guy's nuts slapping her butt while she lays there, unsure of her place... causes a whole nutcase of issues.
___________________________
In closing, my opinion is: Yes, there is a double standard. Male teachers preying on female students get more time. Female teachers preying on male students get less time.
But it is pretty darn understandable.
Female teacher on female student? You really think that wouldn't hit hard? That's pretty traumatic.
Male on male? Same thing.
Being up in arms about gender inequality when it comes to sex (from a male) is pretty funny to me.
SlimSkeeter
08-25-2009, 06:59 PM
When I was that age, there were several teachers I wanted to meet after class for extra credit. Not a one of them ever offered me cash for it. Even without that, I would have hardly thought myself a victim. BUT that being said, I also know that it would have warped my fragile little mind, so yeah, the double standard is bullshit.
I suppose the thinking could be that males are better equipped to fend off unwanted advances, but at that age, riding the school bus down a bumpy road was enough to illicit a potentially embarrassing tumescence.
Scarlet
08-25-2009, 08:19 PM
Touchy subject.
My point is not to say it isn't a big deal when adults prey on children. It is. No matter the gender. However, it is most definitely a 'case by case' type deal.
More trauma, more time. Less trauma, less time.
That said.... you could take it even further.
A look into the genders and promiscuity on either end affects the individual negatively.
For males - it's a longterm process. It's all fun and games til they hit 25-30 and need a companion but do not have the capacity to connect beyond penis to vagina slurp. One experience with a feisty teacher would not necessarily doom a normal male, though. See? Touchy.
For females - it's alll about connection. From day one. Dirty old guy's nuts slapping her butt while she lays there, unsure of her place... causes a whole nutcase of issues.
___________________________
In closing, my opinion is: Yes, there is a double standard. Male teachers preying on female students get more time. Female teachers preying on male students get less time.
But it is pretty darn understandable.
Female teacher on female student? You really think that wouldn't hit hard? That's pretty traumatic.
Male on male? Same thing.
You make some very pertinent points, Josie...and I agree with you.
The Judge, before sentencing the perp, takes into account all aspects of the individual case, including impact reports, which are not released to the media or public. What seems unfair to one only appears that way without the full details of all similar cases. The punishments able to be handed down are only guidelines for the Judge to determine.
CrAnIuM
08-25-2009, 08:43 PM
If I were in a location where it were legal, and the parents had full knowledge of my intent I would not have ANY issue with having consensual sex with a 16 year old female.
Bottom line :
If he or she did not use physical force, or coercive reasoning to obtain said young yummyness then I don't see a problem with it.
jeepneasy
08-26-2009, 11:27 AM
Touchy subject.
My point is not to say it isn't a big deal when adults prey on children. It is. No matter the gender. However, it is most definitely a 'case by case' type deal.
More trauma, more time. Less trauma, less time.
I think you make some great points and I pretty much agree with what you said except for the above quote.
Regardless of gender I think when adults who are placed in charge and given the job of teaching/protecting/chaperoning our students and that authority is violated the law should be upheld regardless the perps gender or "how pretty he/she is". Granted some states may have different age of consent laws and it may fall into more of a sexual harassment issue .... but the law should still apply
SittinGrumpy
08-26-2009, 11:35 AM
At 15 or 16 years old... are you really forcinga male to have sex with a hottie teacher? I don't think so. If it is forced, throw the book at her but if it is willing then let her go. Just to throw this in and get attacked... I think that goes for girls too.
At 15, 16 years old, unless it is being forced then you know what you are doing and if you dont want it you know how to tell someone.
Josie
08-26-2009, 07:20 PM
I think you make some great points and I pretty much agree with what you said except for the above quote.
Regardless of gender I think when adults who are placed in charge and given the job of teaching/protecting/chaperoning our students and that authority is violated the law should be upheld regardless the perps gender or "how pretty he/she is". Granted some states may have different age of consent laws and it may fall into more of a sexual harassment issue .... but the law should still apply
I think you missed my point. If a person is sentenced to any time in jail - and they're serving it - was the law not upheld and the person dealt with according to the US justice system?
Somehow, I think you've mistaken "less time" to = no time.
And it should be taken case-by-case. Always. It sounds to me like you'd be a proponent for:
ANY sexual misconduct by a teacher = 5 years.
So, what about if it's a male teacher on female student and she's impregnated. At 11 years old. 5 years.
And if it's a female teacher on a 15 year old male student. She touched his peewang, he touched her poonany and they giggled about it. 5 years.
Female teacher uses her authority to pressure a 13 year old girl to coming to her house after school. She is molested and raped by the teacher. She goes home - terrified to talk about it. 5 years.
Are you seeing the difference?
jeepneasy
08-27-2009, 12:29 PM
yea.....to much grey area, but I do see your piont. Although I still think there is a double standerd... I'll just pu it in the "life is not fair column"....
4nik8
08-27-2009, 09:09 PM
Touchy subject.
Female and male sexuality is sooo very different. Boys do tend to see sex (especially with an older woman) as some sort of accomplishment. That is definitely not always the case though. It is completely politically incorrect to say it would be different if she were a fat, slobbering mess of human whale - but it really would be. She's cute.
Young females tend to be pressured, feel a lot of fear, etc. The fact that the sex is happening to a female is not being given as in a male's situation changes the dynamic as well.
My point is not to say it isn't a big deal when adults prey on children. It is. No matter the gender. However, it is most definitely a 'case by case' type deal.
More trauma, more time. Less trauma, less time.
That said.... you could take it even further.
A look into the genders and promiscuity on either end affects the individual negatively.
For males - it's a longterm process. It's all fun and games til they hit 25-30 and need a companion but do not have the capacity to connect beyond penis to vagina slurp. One experience with a feisty teacher would not necessarily doom a normal male, though. See? Touchy.
For females - it's alll about connection. From day one. Dirty old guy's nuts slapping her butt while she lays there, unsure of her place... causes a whole nutcase of issues.
___________________________
In closing, my opinion is: Yes, there is a double standard. Male teachers preying on female students get more time. Female teachers preying on male students get less time.
But it is pretty darn understandable.
Female teacher on female student? You really think that wouldn't hit hard? That's pretty traumatic.
Male on male? Same thing.
Being up in arms about gender inequality when it comes to sex (from a male) is pretty funny to me.
That's the biggest crock of shit I've read in I don't know how long.
It perpetuates the bull shit "myth".
All guys are wanting pussy and all females are in fear of cock. (Not GIVING the pussy but having it TAKEN.. fucking LAUGHABLE)
Whores are whores are whores.
What one gender does compared to another to garner the taboo fruit is inconsequential.
The fact still remains that a younger mind was manipulated into a situation where the person in power got what they wanted.
There should be a standard penalty. End of story.
bahumbas
09-01-2009, 10:20 AM
If I were in a location where it were legal, and the parents had full knowledge of my intent I would not have ANY issue with having consensual sex with a 16 year old female.
Bottom line :
If he or she did not use physical force, or coercive reasoning to obtain said young yummyness then I don't see a problem with it.
Your talking with your hormones. There must be clear lines you can not cross. Sure in most cases a 16 year old is probably well informed if she wanted to have consensual relationships with you but there are cases where the 16 year old has been badly abused or fail to see the big picture when deciding weather to have consensual sex with an older man. Whatever the case may be rules were made to safe guard these children from being hurt.
Now that I have said that. People can call me names and hate me all you want. In the end if it was your child and you loved that child very much you would want measures to safe guard your children too.
bahumbas
09-01-2009, 10:29 AM
That's the biggest crock of shit I've read in I don't know how long.
It perpetuates the bull shit "myth".
All guys are wanting pussy and all females are in fear of cock. (Not GIVING the pussy but having it TAKEN.. fucking LAUGHABLE)
Whores are whores are whores.
What one gender does compared to another to garner the taboo fruit is inconsequential.
The fact still remains that a younger mind was manipulated into a situation where the person in power got what they wanted.
There should be a standard penalty. End of story.
I don't particularly favour your rebuttal but I however agree that it is a double standard. The fact that the woman paid the boy should of gotten her more punishment for such an act. If teachers can't be held accountable for their actions weather they are male or female for the safety of the child's sexual encounters should of got her jail time no doubt about that. To give a woman any less leniency than a man brings a loud and clear message to the institution of education. It says to me that it is more acceptable for a woman to sleep with a male minor than for a man to sleep with a female minor.
The fact that the male minor ended up being very very proud of this encounter does not by any means lessen the severity of the crime.
Josie
09-01-2009, 05:17 PM
To give a woman any less leniency than a man brings a loud and clear message to the institution of education. It says to me that it is more acceptable for a woman to sleep with a male minor than for a man to sleep with a female minor.
True. I agree. Buuuuut, it still stands that every situation is different. It's easy to sit back and holler from the peanut gallery how "sleeping with a student is sleeping with a student", but the peanut gallery is obviously not privy to all information available.
Yep, there's probably a double standard. It does seem that women get more leniency - but remember to look at the cases. They're complicated. All of 'em. Too, men are more predatory by nature.
I say probably because I have not been a part of any case. Even the nationally covered (by media) cases are not fully exposed to the public.
It's easy to want to sanitize something. Black and white. Sex is sex. Etc.
But it just can't ever be that simple. And if it ever did come to that, you'd all be hollering "where's the justice? where's MY justice?" !!!
to clarify - bahumbas, this isn't fully directed at you. your comment spurred me back onto the topic.
For dill brain: I doubt you'll do it, but I guarantee you'd benefit from reading Why Gender Matters
bahumbas
09-04-2009, 03:44 AM
I do agree that things are never that simple and that for every situation it needs to be considered. I was just angry because no teacher shagged me like that. She ought to be punish for not shagging me when I was in school. (lol) I know what it sounds like. I am joking. In this matter I agree that every situation needs to be considered case by case. I just wish I was paid and shagged.
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